Is the passion to hunt inborn or is it a learning process? Does a dog have to learn to use his nose? - Exclusively Setters2024-03-29T06:17:46Zhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/865021:Topic:46914?commentId=865021%3AComment%3A55318&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noDogs of may different breeds…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-02-18:865021:Comment:553182008-02-18T08:02:26.704ZRob Clayhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/RobClay
Dogs of may different breeds will sight chase squirrels and rabbits. Hunting setters are using their nose's to find game. Sight chasing and scent hunting are very different.<br />
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I disagree with your neighbor, IMO hunting ability can be lost in just a few generations of not selecting for it. Sure after a few generations these pups may still have some hunting instinct, but frequently much hunting instinct will also have been lost. The pups hunting instincts are something of a "diluted" version of…
Dogs of may different breeds will sight chase squirrels and rabbits. Hunting setters are using their nose's to find game. Sight chasing and scent hunting are very different.<br />
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I disagree with your neighbor, IMO hunting ability can be lost in just a few generations of not selecting for it. Sure after a few generations these pups may still have some hunting instinct, but frequently much hunting instinct will also have been lost. The pups hunting instincts are something of a "diluted" version of their forebears. I definitely think that hunti…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-02-18:865021:Comment:553102008-02-18T01:54:57.286ZGenehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/BeforeShot
I definitely think that hunting is in a Setter's blood (genetics). My dogs have chased many a squirrel, rabbit, etc. naturally. I have even had neighbors comment that you can't fight hundreds of years of genetics.
I definitely think that hunting is in a Setter's blood (genetics). My dogs have chased many a squirrel, rabbit, etc. naturally. I have even had neighbors comment that you can't fight hundreds of years of genetics. Is the passion to hunt inborn…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-02-02:865021:Comment:530492008-02-02T06:53:01.735ZRob Clayhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/RobClay
<b><i>Is the passion to hunt inborn or is it a learning process?</i></b> In my experience it's largely inborn. When comparing my field bred pups to non-field bred pups, it seems to me that the field bred pups have "more run, more desire to get out and explore" which is the early stages of hunting. I'm not saying non-field bred dogs don't any hunting passion, just that this passion is stronger in field bred dogs.<br />
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<b><i>Does a dog have to learn to use his nose?</i></b> YES. Plus they have to…
<b><i>Is the passion to hunt inborn or is it a learning process?</i></b> In my experience it's largely inborn. When comparing my field bred pups to non-field bred pups, it seems to me that the field bred pups have "more run, more desire to get out and explore" which is the early stages of hunting. I'm not saying non-field bred dogs don't any hunting passion, just that this passion is stronger in field bred dogs.<br />
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<b><i>Does a dog have to learn to use his nose?</i></b> YES. Plus they have to learn all the tricks that wild birds will use in an attempt to elude the dog, and learn to hunt different species of birds under different environmental conditions. Certainly with experience a dog's hunting becomes more clever and more productive. So with experience, a good dog learns and becomes better at their job (find birds), but the strength of the desire to get out and do that job in the first place, is largely inborn (genetic) IMO. I know what it is to have no…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-02-02:865021:Comment:530452008-02-02T04:44:57.961ZJo Ottingerhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/tizlady
I know what it is to have no spare time. I just took two days off from work and family. No one was allowed to call or come over.(except my mother). It was nice not having to do anything for two days. The time went really fast though. I spent it with my dogs and cats.
I know what it is to have no spare time. I just took two days off from work and family. No one was allowed to call or come over.(except my mother). It was nice not having to do anything for two days. The time went really fast though. I spent it with my dogs and cats. Kathie, Im totally out of spa…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-02-01:865021:Comment:529322008-02-01T07:44:03.113Zursula wilbyhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/mossby188
Kathie, Im totally out of spare minutes at the moment!
Kathie, Im totally out of spare minutes at the moment! hi,
I am still waiting for a…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-02-01:865021:Comment:529072008-02-01T00:49:20.425ZJo Ottingerhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/tizlady
hi,<br />
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I am still waiting for a picture<br />
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thanks
hi,<br />
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I am still waiting for a picture<br />
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thanks Ill draw one when I get a spa…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-01-16:865021:Comment:484762008-01-16T14:15:02.309Zursula wilbyhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/mossby188
Ill draw one when I get a spare minute...:-)
Ill draw one when I get a spare minute...:-) I wonder what an irish pugter…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-01-15:865021:Comment:482202008-01-15T19:12:18.833ZJo Ottingerhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/tizlady
I wonder what an irish pugter would look like.
I wonder what an irish pugter would look like. Hi,
I think he would also. I…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-01-15:865021:Comment:482182008-01-15T19:08:30.054ZJo Ottingerhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/tizlady
Hi,<br />
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I think he would also. I wish I had the knowledge and somewhere close to take him.<br />
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orry I have not responed sooner. My computer is down at home
Hi,<br />
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I think he would also. I wish I had the knowledge and somewhere close to take him.<br />
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orry I have not responed sooner. My computer is down at home Irish pugters?
I bet there wo…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-01-13:865021:Comment:475332008-01-13T19:13:13.795Zursula wilbyhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/mossby188
Irish pugters?<br />
I bet there would be great market for them.<br />
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My pugs would go after balls (a sort of hunt...if you want to) and the first one (whom I competed in obediance with) was great at retrieving a dumbell. And the metal one on top of it! He would retrieve keys, glassbottles...you name it.<br />
But neither of them have shown any inclination to chase cats, chickens and game of any sort. Neither would they go for mice and moles brought in by the cats. These two pugs are not related so its not a…
Irish pugters?<br />
I bet there would be great market for them.<br />
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My pugs would go after balls (a sort of hunt...if you want to) and the first one (whom I competed in obediance with) was great at retrieving a dumbell. And the metal one on top of it! He would retrieve keys, glassbottles...you name it.<br />
But neither of them have shown any inclination to chase cats, chickens and game of any sort. Neither would they go for mice and moles brought in by the cats. These two pugs are not related so its not a "non-hunting"-line<br />
I remember getting the first one and being so amazed at the fact it just did not show any will to hunt and told the breeder...and was told that was normal behaviour and they did not hunt.<br />
I am certain there are pugs out there that will attempt to chase things, but mine did/and do not.<br />
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Ahhh no, I was not being so academic as to use mendelian inheritance when I mentioned "dominant". Glad we got that one sorted!<br />
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The army was (to begin with) just a way to write about this rather odd macho world out there. With all the would-be-soldiers and their Rottweilers and German Shephards. To do that, I had to join and do all that basic training in the north of Sweden.<br />
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I think I must be the most un-army-like person you will ever meet. But I felt that my setter could do as well as their dogs, and she did, in fact she was far better in some aspects. And it was fun as long as I felt "Im only in it for a very specific purpose". But we shall have that glass of wine never the less...