World Show - waiting for results... - Exclusively Setters2024-03-28T15:44:08Zhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/865021:Topic:79409?commentId=865021%3AComment%3A80765&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAny handler profi or not shou…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-07-18:865021:Comment:819972008-07-18T11:57:07.573ZVojna Medvedechttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/VojnaMedvedec
Any handler profi or not should know the temperament of his dog,and to use the motivation most suitable for the one in question.<br />
Good handlers can admit a lot to the success of /on the first place good speciman of the breed most close to the sandard//,yes some dogs are more showy than the others,but there is no worse picture for me,when the dog is just hardly trained as the soldier.Natural behaviour with the rules of showing and the excellent contact between the dog and the handler is seen not…
Any handler profi or not should know the temperament of his dog,and to use the motivation most suitable for the one in question.<br />
Good handlers can admit a lot to the success of /on the first place good speciman of the breed most close to the sandard//,yes some dogs are more showy than the others,but there is no worse picture for me,when the dog is just hardly trained as the soldier.Natural behaviour with the rules of showing and the excellent contact between the dog and the handler is seen not so often.The ring is the stage and the handler who has a bit of the acting charm and the dog being showy leed to the perfect presentation,but of course wih the standard asked quality dog not to be FORGOTTEN!<br />
There are dogs which can do anything the handler ask of them,but without the personal charm and pale expression is nothing;good judges will not appreciate it.<br />
Yes it is the difference in showing specially labradors and setters as the natures of them are quite different,but there is not better and even more beautiful picture of the competing team as when the dog is looking into the eyes of his handler demonstrating his devotion and love!<br />
Handling is not an easy task,but believe me judging as well. I also use food when teaching…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-07-17:865021:Comment:817422008-07-17T12:59:27.311ZKristinahttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Kristina
I also use food when teaching Flora anything new, but never in the showring. She wouldnt stand still, all she could think about would be food and she would be to excited.<br />
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Thank you for explanation. ;)
I also use food when teaching Flora anything new, but never in the showring. She wouldnt stand still, all she could think about would be food and she would be to excited.<br />
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Thank you for explanation. ;) I use food all the time for m…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-07-17:865021:Comment:817292008-07-17T12:28:32.587Zursula wilbyhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/mossby188
I use food <b>all the time</b> for motivation when it comes to teaching my dogs anything. Not using food (or if a dog prefers toys etc) in a training session is making things more difficult than they need to be. And competing with any dog up at high levels of obedience is certainly difficult enough!<br />
I expect to get paid when doing a job and feel the same way when it comes to dogs.<br />
But as for using food in the showring, that varies from individual to individual. Some will become overmotivated…
I use food <b>all the time</b> for motivation when it comes to teaching my dogs anything. Not using food (or if a dog prefers toys etc) in a training session is making things more difficult than they need to be. And competing with any dog up at high levels of obedience is certainly difficult enough!<br />
I expect to get paid when doing a job and feel the same way when it comes to dogs.<br />
But as for using food in the showring, that varies from individual to individual. Some will become overmotivated and some will need the motivation food will give.<br />
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Double handling is when you have one person showing a dog <b>in</b> the ring and one person rushing about <b>outside</b> the ring, calling for the dogs attention by throwing balls, toys or by just rushing about and calling its name. Used most often (and often allowed and accepted) around working-dog-rings like german shephards etc. When I am judging retrievers…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-07-17:865021:Comment:817272008-07-17T12:21:40.501ZAlenka Pokornhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/pikica06
When I am judging retrievers I have many problems checking the teeth because the dogs are so motivated by the food their handlers have that they will not even want to turn their head towards me. It is specially evident in young dogs.<br />
With setters I think it is quite difficult to motivate them by using food as their ears seem to "pup up" and the expression is spoiled.
When I am judging retrievers I have many problems checking the teeth because the dogs are so motivated by the food their handlers have that they will not even want to turn their head towards me. It is specially evident in young dogs.<br />
With setters I think it is quite difficult to motivate them by using food as their ears seem to "pup up" and the expression is spoiled. I never ever used food for mo…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-07-17:865021:Comment:817232008-07-17T11:37:25.048ZKristinahttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Kristina
I never ever used food for motivation. I didnt know it it that often - except some breeds.<br />
Sorry, but what is double handling?
I never ever used food for motivation. I didnt know it it that often - except some breeds.<br />
Sorry, but what is double handling? you can see that in every cou…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-07-17:865021:Comment:817222008-07-17T11:31:14.579ZLaura Kolbachhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/paintedblue
you can see that in <b>every</b> country. most dogs do not enjoy shows but are easily motivated by food. group 2 dog owners are in the ring with balls or squeekies :-) most of the golden retrievers are fed all the time when stacked in front of the judge (i hate that, honestly said, as every dog can be tought to stand or to be stacked). all professional handlers use bait. so it is more common than you think!<br />
the only thing that is forbidden - in FCI countries at least - is double handling. but…
you can see that in <b>every</b> country. most dogs do not enjoy shows but are easily motivated by food. group 2 dog owners are in the ring with balls or squeekies :-) most of the golden retrievers are fed all the time when stacked in front of the judge (i hate that, honestly said, as every dog can be tought to stand or to be stacked). all professional handlers use bait. so it is more common than you think!<br />
the only thing that is forbidden - in FCI countries at least - is double handling. but you can see that also a lot, without any consequence... Food is quite OK in the showr…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-07-17:865021:Comment:817202008-07-17T11:17:18.197Zursula wilbyhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/mossby188
Food is quite OK in the showring in Sweden. I dont know about other countries.<br />
But definatly <b>NOT</b> OK when it comes to obedience for instance. In the obedience-ring you certainly get disqualified instantly.
Food is quite OK in the showring in Sweden. I dont know about other countries.<br />
But definatly <b>NOT</b> OK when it comes to obedience for instance. In the obedience-ring you certainly get disqualified instantly. Is it allowed to use food to…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-07-17:865021:Comment:816782008-07-17T10:09:10.644ZKristinahttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Kristina
Is it allowed to use food to motivate dogs while handling? I was very suprised to see many handlers having something in their hand (probaby food). I thought it is not allowed..... What judges think of that? Can they disqualify a dog?
Is it allowed to use food to motivate dogs while handling? I was very suprised to see many handlers having something in their hand (probaby food). I thought it is not allowed..... What judges think of that? Can they disqualify a dog? Pelle is the real English typ…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-07-13:865021:Comment:811412008-07-13T21:22:37.467Zyvonnehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/taddle
Pelle is the real English type of a Gordon Setter and it was really interesting to see what the judge would do with 3 American/Australian types and 1 English type in Champion class , he preferred the other type , fine by me , but he also loved the English type he explained afterwards to all handlers in the ring , in his opinion all 4 of the dogs in Champion class deserved to stand on 1 th spot but he only could give it to one , most of the entries for the Gordon setter where from the…
Pelle is the real English type of a Gordon Setter and it was really interesting to see what the judge would do with 3 American/Australian types and 1 English type in Champion class , he preferred the other type , fine by me , but he also loved the English type he explained afterwards to all handlers in the ring , in his opinion all 4 of the dogs in Champion class deserved to stand on 1 th spot but he only could give it to one , most of the entries for the Gordon setter where from the American/Australian types , the Open show had only 4 gordon setters entered , English judge prefer more the English type of Gordons and that you could see in the dogs who where there<br />
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What i never saw before is that they straightenend the coat with a straithener what you use for you own curly hair to get it straight , i saw it in the grooming area on the Gordons Mona Hunter (kennel Braidmoun…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-07-13:865021:Comment:810482008-07-13T09:56:00.651ZLaura Kolbachhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/paintedblue
Mona Hunter (kennel Braidmount) for Irish Setter bitches<br />
Will Brown (kennel Braidmount) for Irish Setter dogs<br />
Chris Sayers (kennel Christter) for English and Gordon Setters<br />
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results are here: <a href="http://kennelsite.net/isf/isf_results.php?2008">http://kennelsite.net/isf/isf_results.php?2008</a>
Mona Hunter (kennel Braidmount) for Irish Setter bitches<br />
Will Brown (kennel Braidmount) for Irish Setter dogs<br />
Chris Sayers (kennel Christter) for English and Gordon Setters<br />
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results are here: <a href="http://kennelsite.net/isf/isf_results.php?2008">http://kennelsite.net/isf/isf_results.php?2008</a>