Barking/lunging randomly at strangers when out? - Exclusively Setters2024-03-28T23:27:10Zhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/barking-lunging-randomly-at-strangers-when-out?commentId=865021%3AComment%3A824121&feed=yes&xn_auth=nothats interesting Fran -what…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-10-19:865021:Comment:8283132011-10-19T15:37:42.528ZLouise Perryhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/LouisePerry
thats interesting Fran -what kind of behaviour changes were they (if I can ask of course) ?
thats interesting Fran -what kind of behaviour changes were they (if I can ask of course) ? Strange you say this Sue. My…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-10-19:865021:Comment:8284402011-10-19T15:34:18.895ZFran Griffinhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/FranGriffin
<p>Strange you say this Sue. My friend uses supralorin on one of her Viszlas, and she was only saying last week that he was "going through his behaviour change as it is wearing off".</p>
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<p>Strange you say this Sue. My friend uses supralorin on one of her Viszlas, and she was only saying last week that he was "going through his behaviour change as it is wearing off".</p>
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<p>Just popping in briefly to say thank you for the responses and advice. Sue I do think his hormones have something to do with his behaviour and will not give him another implant as i want to see what happens. I am remaining calm and keeping to damage limitations ie , trying to be one step ahead of Reuben and being aware of people around me etc. I will come back to this at a later date but up to my eyeballs in biology and Anatomy & Physiology revision for my mid-semester exams next week -…</p>
<p>Just popping in briefly to say thank you for the responses and advice. Sue I do think his hormones have something to do with his behaviour and will not give him another implant as i want to see what happens. I am remaining calm and keeping to damage limitations ie , trying to be one step ahead of Reuben and being aware of people around me etc. I will come back to this at a later date but up to my eyeballs in biology and Anatomy & Physiology revision for my mid-semester exams next week - yikes. I can't wait to actually spend more time on the behavioural aspect of my course once i got my head around the basic science side. You will be pleased to know that I have chosen Honeybees and Dolphins (as opposed to another insect) for my second assignment, so a tad more interesting I think, hehe.</p>
<p>I will be back - watch this space!</p> Hi Elizabeth thanks so much f…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-10-15:865021:Comment:8261072011-10-15T16:06:10.826ZTeresa Joneshttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/TERESAJONES
Hi Elizabeth thanks so much for your advice it's good having this site for all the great advice that you can get for your breed of dog i think over stimulation may be the problem and more rest required i think i'm forgetting he's still a baby and expecting too much too soon but i hope it doesn't take 2 years for an improvement. We both dozed in the garden this pm as the weather was lovely and he snuggled into me and didn't try and mouth or bite me once. this is what it's all about a lovely…
Hi Elizabeth thanks so much for your advice it's good having this site for all the great advice that you can get for your breed of dog i think over stimulation may be the problem and more rest required i think i'm forgetting he's still a baby and expecting too much too soon but i hope it doesn't take 2 years for an improvement. We both dozed in the garden this pm as the weather was lovely and he snuggled into me and didn't try and mouth or bite me once. this is what it's all about a lovely calm setter puppy Hi Teresa, I have only just s…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-10-14:865021:Comment:8251482011-10-14T17:34:16.909ZElizabeth Ballhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/ElizabethBall
<p>Hi Teresa, I have only just seen this discussion and agree completely with Sue and Fran's advice. Our little darling Bella could be an absolute monster at times, particularly when tired. Like your boy she was angelic in classes but quickly saw games as an opportunity to have a good bite. Our dog trainer advised us that we needed to teach Bella how to play properly and put in some firm rules that we both stuck to (my husband was a devil for letting things get hyper) and as soon as Bella…</p>
<p>Hi Teresa, I have only just seen this discussion and agree completely with Sue and Fran's advice. Our little darling Bella could be an absolute monster at times, particularly when tired. Like your boy she was angelic in classes but quickly saw games as an opportunity to have a good bite. Our dog trainer advised us that we needed to teach Bella how to play properly and put in some firm rules that we both stuck to (my husband was a devil for letting things get hyper) and as soon as Bella put teeth to skin then the games were over. It took some time (and initially some much larger toys!) but we are now at the point that when we are playing and I show her my hand (a bit like a traffic policemen saying stop) then she has to sit down and calm down until I say it is OK. We still have moments, she is only 2 after all!!</p>
<p>As I am the 'at home' owner she also told me that Bella needed some quiet time on her own where she would learn to settle herself and for her to learn that it was OK to be apart from me when I was in the house so I also built that into our routine and now when we get back from our morning walk she comes into the house and takes herself straight off to her bed in the hallway for a drink and a rest and I don't even get a look in.</p> Thank you everybody for all y…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-10-13:865021:Comment:8243022011-10-13T10:34:14.705ZTeresa Joneshttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/TERESAJONES
<p>Thank you everybody for all your advice and help on aggressive puppy i'll take it all on board and let you know how it goes don't want to start dreading going for a walk! It's great to have advice from setter owners setters seem to respond to a gentler approach maybe moreso than other breeds and he is so lovely and i want to do my best for him he wants 2 rest alot when out so i'll cut the walks/runs down as suggested</p>
<p>Thank you everybody for all your advice and help on aggressive puppy i'll take it all on board and let you know how it goes don't want to start dreading going for a walk! It's great to have advice from setter owners setters seem to respond to a gentler approach maybe moreso than other breeds and he is so lovely and i want to do my best for him he wants 2 rest alot when out so i'll cut the walks/runs down as suggested</p> Hi,
and who said this site…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-10-13:865021:Comment:8242212011-10-13T10:12:14.099ZBryan Eaglehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/BryanEagle
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<p>and who said this site is addictive/! Only been here a week and made several posts already.</p>
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<p>5 month old pup is bound to be bouncy but (truly) aggressive is not so good. Good points made by Sue and Fran and he is very young to be expecting too much of, he really is a baby. Perhaps not try an overstimulate him, he's a long way from a sorted, calm(ish) mature dog. If there are others in the house/coming and going (children, friends etc) then he won't be so…</p>
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<p>5 month old pup is bound to be bouncy but (truly) aggressive is not so good. Good points made by Sue and Fran and he is very young to be expecting too much of, he really is a baby. Perhaps not try an overstimulate him, he's a long way from a sorted, calm(ish) mature dog. If there are others in the house/coming and going (children, friends etc) then he won't be so settled as he won't know his place in the scheme of things.</p>
<p>I suspect a lot of the growling might well be puppy play and if his teeth are coming this won't help. Ragging the lead and pulling are pretty normal, its quite a thing for a pup to get a noose round its neck! Give him little lead walks (no commands like sit etc) round the house, reward him when the lead goes on, then reward him when the lead is still on, and again when it comes off. Should slowly break the fighting with lead thing.</p>
<p>As said, stopping games/behaviours when he gets too much will help, teaching him what stop is will take a few weeks. If there is an audience and he is unsure then he'll play up, he is a setter!</p>
<p>A good check to see if its a dominance (over you) thing is to give him his food as usual, when he is eating pat him and talk to him then take the food off him. If he growls and his hackles go up then you'll know he thinks he is higher up the family pecking order than you. If he is fine then his messing around is puppy behaviour and a consistent approach plus time should be enough!</p>
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<p> </p> Hi Teresa. Considering you a…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-10-13:865021:Comment:8242172011-10-13T09:53:21.276ZFran Griffinhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/FranGriffin
Hi Teresa. Considering you are feeding Darlings, it is most unlikely that this will be hyping him up. However, as Sue says, you need to stop playing and interacting with him before he gets wired up enough to start being aggressive. I also wonder how much exercise he is getting? at 5 months he is still very immature, and in my experience, I have seen it all too often that over exercising leads to very wired dogs. Also over stimulation to the point that they are getting adrenalin highs,…
Hi Teresa. Considering you are feeding Darlings, it is most unlikely that this will be hyping him up. However, as Sue says, you need to stop playing and interacting with him before he gets wired up enough to start being aggressive. I also wonder how much exercise he is getting? at 5 months he is still very immature, and in my experience, I have seen it all too often that over exercising leads to very wired dogs. Also over stimulation to the point that they are getting adrenalin highs, particularly during the teething period which he will be right into at the moment. Another thing which can lead to this kind of behaviour is mis commnunication. You shout "no" or "enough" to him and he doesn't understand what is going on. This can result in young dogs going balmy. It would be like somebody shouting at you in Russian and appearing threatening towards you. What I have always done with my youngsters is restrict exercise to short runs in the morning, and evening, but putting them in their cages as soon as they return home, to settle them down to prevent over stimulation. I also put them in there with stuffed kongs, ice cubes, frozen bones etc so that it helps with the pain of teething, If I felt they were becoming wired, again I would put them away for a couple of hours with their frozen items, to try and keep them as calm as possible. Basically, I treated them like silly wired up kids, which is what they are at this age really ;-) I hope this helps, but if not, privately mail me and I will see if there is any good help available to you in your area. We have the same problem with…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-10-13:865021:Comment:8243002011-10-13T09:50:42.256ZIlona & Ginahttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/IlonaCrotogino
<p>We have the same problem with our boy Anton. He barks at people who wear bicyle helmets and at kids and and....</p>
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<p>We were so scare that, one day, Anton would bite someone that we called a 'doggy shrink' - what a godsent!</p>
<p>We do the look at me training and Anton is getting there. Good luck with Reuben! </p>
<p>We have the same problem with our boy Anton. He barks at people who wear bicyle helmets and at kids and and....</p>
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<p>We were so scare that, one day, Anton would bite someone that we called a 'doggy shrink' - what a godsent!</p>
<p>We do the look at me training and Anton is getting there. Good luck with Reuben! </p> Hi Sue thanks for your reply…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-10-12:865021:Comment:8241992011-10-12T23:36:14.910ZTeresa Joneshttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/TERESAJONES
Hi Sue thanks for your reply I have said 'enough' as you suggested but he totally ignores me even if I throw him a ball or toy he will fetch it but will grumble on the way back and after a few goes will start attacking me as if he doesn't want to do it so I play/train him instead so that he doesn't get so excited like throwing a biscuit and making him wait for it he's fine with this type of play. I feed him raw this is a complete food by Darlings with fresh meat and seasonal vegetables with…
Hi Sue thanks for your reply I have said 'enough' as you suggested but he totally ignores me even if I throw him a ball or toy he will fetch it but will grumble on the way back and after a few goes will start attacking me as if he doesn't want to do it so I play/train him instead so that he doesn't get so excited like throwing a biscuit and making him wait for it he's fine with this type of play. I feed him raw this is a complete food by Darlings with fresh meat and seasonal vegetables with amounts based on body weight so I don't think it's a dietary problem but I will monitor this and mention it to Darlings he has also gained weight since being on this food but is not overweight