Frustrations - Exclusively Setters2024-03-29T13:29:59Zhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/frustrations?commentId=865021%3AComment%3A748698&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Louise,
W…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-08-23:865021:Comment:7591812011-08-23T18:01:48.495ZNeil Toddhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/NeilTodd
<p>Hi Louise,</p>
<p> We generally have him on an extender lead whilst walking and use a whistle to get him back even then. Tonight was a good run he came back consistently and even walked to heel without lead when told, so I think he's getting there, think also though he needs to be socialised more with other dogs :o)</p>
<p>Hi Louise,</p>
<p> We generally have him on an extender lead whilst walking and use a whistle to get him back even then. Tonight was a good run he came back consistently and even walked to heel without lead when told, so I think he's getting there, think also though he needs to be socialised more with other dogs :o)</p> Hey Neil, have u tried the lo…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-08-23:865021:Comment:7591752011-08-23T17:02:15.341ZLouise Perryhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/LouisePerry
<p>Hey Neil, have u tried the long line and whistle training etc? I have a wilful male dog but have to say that the whistle has been my saviour and especiallly useful for distractions like other dogs and small running children. And I had a couple of time periods where I had to put Reuben back on the long line again to reinforce the whistle and also take away any meat foods from his meals and only give to him when he came back to the whistle. (Think that was one of Sue's ideas actually and it…</p>
<p>Hey Neil, have u tried the long line and whistle training etc? I have a wilful male dog but have to say that the whistle has been my saviour and especiallly useful for distractions like other dogs and small running children. And I had a couple of time periods where I had to put Reuben back on the long line again to reinforce the whistle and also take away any meat foods from his meals and only give to him when he came back to the whistle. (Think that was one of Sue's ideas actually and it did help). Now he is 26 months old and 99% whistle trained, because of course i have the odd time when he just cant resist!</p>
<p>As to the rude encounter Deb had, well what can I say - lots of humans cant control themselves and soon our dogs will have whistles for us, haha</p>
<p>Good luck</p> Still chuckling from reading…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-08-21:865021:Comment:7541682011-08-21T10:57:30.302ZNeil Toddhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/NeilTodd
Still chuckling from reading the above post. He has good days and bad days, yesterday was a bad one where the whistle was purely ignored and just getting over a cold my chest was to weak to be blowing too often, he came back to us eventually but in his own time, he would disappear into other fields but still find us which is good, however no dogs about. I like him having his freedom to explore in safe places and don't fret when he disappears for a few minutes. I do worry though when I read…
Still chuckling from reading the above post. He has good days and bad days, yesterday was a bad one where the whistle was purely ignored and just getting over a cold my chest was to weak to be blowing too often, he came back to us eventually but in his own time, he would disappear into other fields but still find us which is good, however no dogs about. I like him having his freedom to explore in safe places and don't fret when he disappears for a few minutes. I do worry though when I read stories on here were people's dogs have vanished for an hour plus, but recently he seems to like to know where we are. I agree with your last paragr…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-08-20:865021:Comment:7536002011-08-20T23:42:16.490ZVal Martinhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/xn/detail/u_3k8ugkdvlpw06
<p>I agree with your last paragraph Danielle...</p>
<p>The trouble is, most dogs rarely, if ever, encounter horses on a day to day bases.</p>
<p>I do however, put the blame wholly on the owners of any dogs out of control in public places. </p>
<p>There are plenty of training classes around and also people like myself who train on a one to one basis to help with any dog related problems.</p>
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<p>I agree with your last paragraph Danielle...</p>
<p>The trouble is, most dogs rarely, if ever, encounter horses on a day to day bases.</p>
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<p> </p> Thanks for your replies all.…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-08-18:865021:Comment:7494122011-08-18T19:22:52.342ZNeil Toddhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/NeilTodd
<p>Thanks for your replies all. Kristina I blamed the other owner for being rude and spiteful, in no way am trying to blame him for my dog not coming back which I have admitted is our problem. This field we use is not a public right of way, it is a quiet farmers field that we use to run and train Shea and 9 times out of ten we will not encounter any other dog owners thankfully if we are in a public place where allot of dogs are Shea is always on the lead.</p>
<p>I guess training a dog can…</p>
<p>Thanks for your replies all. Kristina I blamed the other owner for being rude and spiteful, in no way am trying to blame him for my dog not coming back which I have admitted is our problem. This field we use is not a public right of way, it is a quiet farmers field that we use to run and train Shea and 9 times out of ten we will not encounter any other dog owners thankfully if we are in a public place where allot of dogs are Shea is always on the lead.</p>
<p>I guess training a dog can sometimes be like learning to drive, you will always get the people with short memories and even shorter patience unwilling to make allowances that they themselves enjoyed in the learning stage.</p>
<p>I do think it's easier to get the recall right when you have other dogs, the younger can learn from them and the novelty of dog play is not as prominent. We only have Shea and in all honesty he doesn't often mix with other dogs, this being part of the problem we are looking to remedy that asap.</p> I have been on both sides of…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-08-18:865021:Comment:7496942011-08-18T19:19:27.305Zeva ciechonskahttp://irishsetters.ning.com/xn/detail/u_0gijg39gsgi1q
I have been on both sides of this kind of situation. In my experience it has always been my male puppies who have run off to greet other dogs.....they have all grown out of it but it has been very frustrating!!! In Edward's case he was duffed over a few times and has learnt to be more cautious. I too have run after dog walkers who have refused to stop and have been on the receiving end of verbal abuse. Because it has often happened to me I have every sympathy with puppy owners who are going…
I have been on both sides of this kind of situation. In my experience it has always been my male puppies who have run off to greet other dogs.....they have all grown out of it but it has been very frustrating!!! In Edward's case he was duffed over a few times and has learnt to be more cautious. I too have run after dog walkers who have refused to stop and have been on the receiving end of verbal abuse. Because it has often happened to me I have every sympathy with puppy owners who are going through the same experience and always wait for them to retrieve their dogs from me........it's no biggie. Kristina I'm glad you put tha…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-08-18:865021:Comment:7487122011-08-18T13:45:09.576Zdanielle rowleshttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/daniellerowles
<p>Kristina I'm glad you put that as reading through other comments I thought I was being mean by thinking of a recent incident I had with a black lab. I compleatly understand both sides here as with walking a puppy she is constanly wanting to play with every dog and runner going, that said, she does come back, mainly because I just walk off and leave her and she has my other dogs to play with. However not long ago while walking 3 of mine up in the woods I'd had to stop about 3 times for…</p>
<p>Kristina I'm glad you put that as reading through other comments I thought I was being mean by thinking of a recent incident I had with a black lab. I compleatly understand both sides here as with walking a puppy she is constanly wanting to play with every dog and runner going, that said, she does come back, mainly because I just walk off and leave her and she has my other dogs to play with. However not long ago while walking 3 of mine up in the woods I'd had to stop about 3 times for different sets of dogs that wouldn't return to their owners, being a good person I of course stopped and waited, by the 4th time I was fed up of this and there was a black lab that just would not return to the family walking it so I did just carry on walking and my dogs carried on running around ignoring the lab, I think it went back to its owners eventually as it did stop follwing me, so now, I must admit, it does get on my nerves a bit when people can't get there dogs back.</p>
<p> I'm not saying mine are perfect on recall, the younger lot are better than the older one as like others, I train my pups to come to a whistle when weaning them and playing in the garden, but all of my dogs love me and being out with me that even when I walk 6 together I still get 6 back at the end of the walk, we meet lots of other dogs and walkers/runners and most of the time my dogs just don't care about the other stuff going on, I'm just lucky I guess.</p>
<p> Val, I just had to say, that I'm glad it was bikes that the dog you were training went after, and (as it was a bridleway) not horses as the situation could have been so much worse and much more dangerous, sorry, but I ride and use alot of bridleway's and the amount of times I have had someone's dog come chasing after the horse and scare it silly, I have been lucky really that I have had a serious accident!</p> Thanks Sue. Maybe I should eb…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-08-18:865021:Comment:7487042011-08-18T13:01:16.848ZKC and the boyshttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Catherine_and_Errol
<p>Thanks Sue. Maybe I should ebay or wholesale whistles... I don't even loose them when I'm out and about but usually in the house. Maybe Errol hides them on purpose. </p>
<p>I noticed that flayling my arms and making silly noises while running away is also irresistable to my boy. :)</p>
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<p>Thanks Sue. Maybe I should ebay or wholesale whistles... I don't even loose them when I'm out and about but usually in the house. Maybe Errol hides them on purpose. </p>
<p>I noticed that flayling my arms and making silly noises while running away is also irresistable to my boy. :)</p>
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<p>I used to do whistle training and at times when it worked Errol really impressed other dog walkers with his repsonse. However, I lost the whistle some time ago and as it wasn't a specific dog whistle but just an odd one with a distinct sound which I can no longer get hold of I was wondering whether any odd whistle will do? And if I go for the bog standard dog whistle will he just respond to and follow others whistling for their dogs?</p>
<p>That said Errol's recall is so much better these…</p>
<p>I used to do whistle training and at times when it worked Errol really impressed other dog walkers with his repsonse. However, I lost the whistle some time ago and as it wasn't a specific dog whistle but just an odd one with a distinct sound which I can no longer get hold of I was wondering whether any odd whistle will do? And if I go for the bog standard dog whistle will he just respond to and follow others whistling for their dogs?</p>
<p>That said Errol's recall is so much better these days (albeit thanks to more drastic spray collar training) but if Mother Nature calls I dare say any dog owner will have a battle of wills on their hands...</p>
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<p> </p> I have to agree with Jeremy B…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-08-18:865021:Comment:7482292011-08-18T10:36:39.796ZAnn Millingtonhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Vollut
<p>I have to agree with Jeremy Bott ;o]) We always started our puppies with a recall whistle while putting their food down - even when they were sitting at our feet at the time. We played the "Recall Whistle" game on a regular basis in the garden incorporating it into ball ganes and I chase you - you chase me games... making coming to hand just the nicest place for a dog to be - treats, strokes cuddles etc.</p>
<p>When old enough to go out into the fields pups were always on a line at first…</p>
<p>I have to agree with Jeremy Bott ;o]) We always started our puppies with a recall whistle while putting their food down - even when they were sitting at our feet at the time. We played the "Recall Whistle" game on a regular basis in the garden incorporating it into ball ganes and I chase you - you chase me games... making coming to hand just the nicest place for a dog to be - treats, strokes cuddles etc.</p>
<p>When old enough to go out into the fields pups were always on a line at first with the same old games and rewards for returning. The big day comes when you let them off! Most remember the drill - can't say all are perfect tho'!</p>
<p>Tip: if your dog does not heed you, call it and walk in the oposite direction, like you don't care whether he comes or not.... he thinks you mean it Oh! No!</p>
<p>If you chase him he'll keep running - the trick is to turn round and make him chase you - let him catch you - and nab him! Give him a hug and a smile (while you grind your teeth and mutter unseemly remarks under your breath)</p>
<p>I always found the whistle to be the most effective way to recall. If you shout and holler it's just noise... akin to barking and merely excites the already excited, bolshi dog.</p>