Has Anybody Else Failed Puppy Pre School - Exclusively Setters2024-03-29T07:26:21Zhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/has-anybody-else-failed-puppy-pre-school-1?id=865021%3ATopic%3A1143409&feed=yes&xn_auth=noKevin, 'we' failed a training…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2015-02-18:865021:Comment:11507952015-02-18T03:54:11.221ZJane Turnerhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/JaneTurner
Kevin, 'we' failed a training class test too because that night there was too much owner stress in the air and too many distractions for my young dog to cope with. OK most (but not all) of the other dogs coped, but they weren't Setters! However the lessons learned in the class have stuck because we carried on with them and we have a (mostly) well behaved dog whose recall I'm very proud of. We just don't have the certificate! In future I'd look for training classes that are not based on passing…
Kevin, 'we' failed a training class test too because that night there was too much owner stress in the air and too many distractions for my young dog to cope with. OK most (but not all) of the other dogs coped, but they weren't Setters! However the lessons learned in the class have stuck because we carried on with them and we have a (mostly) well behaved dog whose recall I'm very proud of. We just don't have the certificate! In future I'd look for training classes that are not based on passing a test. Hi Kevin, I agree with the co…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2015-01-13:865021:Comment:11492282015-01-13T02:17:47.952ZFinding_Beauhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/HammerBeau
<p>Hi Kevin, I agree with the comments that you and Matilda were unlucky to have an incompetent instructor. Long ago Puppy Kindy was purely a means of socialisation. No training was considered. Puppies should be allowed to be puppies. If the owner wished to progress to an obedience class later on, they would start at Level 1. At this Level, it was not expected that the young dogs would be perfectly behaved. The breed of the dog should always be taken into account. Also, within each breed,…</p>
<p>Hi Kevin, I agree with the comments that you and Matilda were unlucky to have an incompetent instructor. Long ago Puppy Kindy was purely a means of socialisation. No training was considered. Puppies should be allowed to be puppies. If the owner wished to progress to an obedience class later on, they would start at Level 1. At this Level, it was not expected that the young dogs would be perfectly behaved. The breed of the dog should always be taken into account. Also, within each breed, understandably some young dogs are more outgoing than others.</p>
<p>I prefer to train my English Setters myself now. I do not believe a dog is just an animal and that the human being is the superior species. For instance, my English Setter, Misty came to me at 13 months of age. She turned out to be deaf. I was not advised of this, but even if I had, this would not have stopped me from purchasing her (sight unseen). The previous owner was honest in telling me that Misty had never been taken anywhere. She had never worn a collar, never been taken on a walk, never been for a ride in a car, and she had never seen another human being or another dog except those she had lived with. I did not buy a book or attend a class on how to communicate with or train a deaf dog. I have found that Misty is very focussed on me because she is deaf unlike some of my English Setter boys who choose not to take the slightest notice of me on occasions, but this is what English Setters do! As long as they do not place themselves in a position where they can be harmed, who cares! I don't do as I am told all the time either!</p>
<p>Best Wishes from Susan.</p> All of the above sound like…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2015-01-12:865021:Comment:11492852015-01-12T20:41:42.284Zcarol marcumhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/carolmarcum
<p> All of the above sound like Brady at class. He was so playful that the instructor suggested benedryl before class. Later our vet said sometime it will make them more hyper. You guessed it Brady was the hyper one.</p>
<p> All of the above sound like Brady at class. He was so playful that the instructor suggested benedryl before class. Later our vet said sometime it will make them more hyper. You guessed it Brady was the hyper one.</p> You didn't fail neither odd y…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2014-09-22:865021:Comment:11439922014-09-22T05:41:13.775Zrosie beerehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/rosiebeere
You didn't fail neither odd your puppy, your instructor failed. Obviously hadn't the experience to train a pup with a fast mind. Irish Setters are a breeze as long as you don't expect them to do the same old thing over and over. Defiantly did not fail. Cheers Rosie
You didn't fail neither odd your puppy, your instructor failed. Obviously hadn't the experience to train a pup with a fast mind. Irish Setters are a breeze as long as you don't expect them to do the same old thing over and over. Defiantly did not fail. Cheers Rosie This is our Seamus too, thank…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2014-09-08:865021:Comment:11434602014-09-08T14:09:30.990ZSara Goudgehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SaraLawrence
<p>This is our Seamus too, thankfully our trainer reinforced that commands must be taught in 5 different locations with distractions before they are rock solid. We are now in training for him to be a therapy dog and he's a wonderful bird dog for his Daddy... things will improve. Just a slow to mature and fun-loving breed!! I would agree with someone else who said to make sure to find a trainer who understands the breed, otherwise you're in for frustration. </p>
<p>This is our Seamus too, thankfully our trainer reinforced that commands must be taught in 5 different locations with distractions before they are rock solid. We are now in training for him to be a therapy dog and he's a wonderful bird dog for his Daddy... things will improve. Just a slow to mature and fun-loving breed!! I would agree with someone else who said to make sure to find a trainer who understands the breed, otherwise you're in for frustration. </p> Sounds like you need to find…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2014-09-05:865021:Comment:11434682014-09-05T13:22:03.473ZFran Griffinhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/FranGriffin
<p>Sounds like you need to find another puppy school who understands high drive dogs. You will be surprised how many people who take dog training classes cannot handle anything apart from a robotic type border collie, a german shepherd or a labrador! lol</p>
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<p>Sounds like you need to find another puppy school who understands high drive dogs. You will be surprised how many people who take dog training classes cannot handle anything apart from a robotic type border collie, a german shepherd or a labrador! lol</p>
<p></p> heheheh Matiida sounds such f…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2014-09-04:865021:Comment:11432452014-09-04T19:56:42.420ZSharyn Latchfordhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/redladies
<p>heheheh Matiida sounds such fun....and brought back (many) memories...I remember the first time Finnegan was entered at a Rally show..made so many mistakes, knocking cones over, missing stations........and playing the fool......of course we got no where but on the result sheet the judge had written....Such.fun to watch!!!.</p>
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<p>Enjoy your girl...they bring a smile to many</p>
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<p>heheheh Matiida sounds such fun....and brought back (many) memories...I remember the first time Finnegan was entered at a Rally show..made so many mistakes, knocking cones over, missing stations........and playing the fool......of course we got no where but on the result sheet the judge had written....Such.fun to watch!!!.</p>
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<p>Enjoy your girl...they bring a smile to many</p>
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<p>Sharyn</p> Thank goodness for the fun ou…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2014-09-04:865021:Comment:11431592014-09-04T07:45:31.991ZSue Patersonhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SuePaters0n
<p>Thank goodness for the fun our reds display:)</p>
<p>I help train dogs (and their people) at ringcraft, and the thing I hate most is the dog who stands totally still but sort of limp, looks bored, and then moves x number of paces up the mat and turns and does x number of paces back all with no enthusiasm.</p>
<p>Give me a setter any time, who quivers with excitement and even moves his feet around whilst standing and then actually runs round the ring with sheer exuberance.</p>
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<p>Thank goodness for the fun our reds display:)</p>
<p>I help train dogs (and their people) at ringcraft, and the thing I hate most is the dog who stands totally still but sort of limp, looks bored, and then moves x number of paces up the mat and turns and does x number of paces back all with no enthusiasm.</p>
<p>Give me a setter any time, who quivers with excitement and even moves his feet around whilst standing and then actually runs round the ring with sheer exuberance.</p>
<p>I remember Delta, our first show dog, going to puppy training. Within about three weeks he had it all worked out and then started to act the clown, as you describe. Luckily the trainer understood that he was a rather bright boyand knew the routine, so she mixed things up and put in a few new things just for him.</p>
<p>I reckon Michelle has a point. Matilda sounds like a clever girl.</p>
<p>NB I never think in terms of failure. I always say you have succeeded to a certain point...much better...I'm a positive thinker:)</p> And she loves the water too.tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2014-09-03:865021:Comment:11431562014-09-03T11:42:50.576ZKevinhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Kevin
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1922868539?profile=original" target="_self">And she loves the water too.<img width="721" class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1922868539?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"/></a></p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1922868539?profile=original" target="_self">And she loves the water too.<img width="721" class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1922868539?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"/></a></p> Thanks Michelle and Ellen. Ma…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2014-09-03:865021:Comment:11431532014-09-03T11:35:43.365ZKevinhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Kevin
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1922869114?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1922869114?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"></img></a> Thanks Michelle and Ellen. Matilda is indeed a character, and we love her for it. She is definitely not a little robot. She has a mind of her own, and is oh so clever. Well I have made peace with resetting puppy school, and at least I know that, the two of us will have the most fun. This is 20 week old Matilda and 4 week old…</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1922869114?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1922869114?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"/></a>Thanks Michelle and Ellen. Matilda is indeed a character, and we love her for it. She is definitely not a little robot. She has a mind of her own, and is oh so clever. Well I have made peace with resetting puppy school, and at least I know that, the two of us will have the most fun. This is 20 week old Matilda and 4 week old Oliver.</p>
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