Hi, hunters, could you share with us your knowledge, experience of hunting dogs - Exclusively Setters2024-03-28T21:12:55Zhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/hi-hunters-could-you-share?commentId=865021%3AComment%3A140332&feed=yes&xn_auth=noGennadi, thanks for another i…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-27:865021:Comment:1409812009-01-27T12:54:41.423ZAnna Kazimierowiczhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/AnnaKazimierowicz
Gennadi, thanks for another internet address. You see, nobody tells me earlier not to unfreeze birds. And this is important!<br />
Thanks ;)))<br />
Henk, I will put some flowers for Maria with pleasure as soon as I will be in my village. When I really started to look photos on this site I discovered the world!!! So not only setternose but also setter lovers.<br />
I remember, first were photos from far far North, tundra in Lapland. I think I will never go there, but sitting in my room i can travel all the world…
Gennadi, thanks for another internet address. You see, nobody tells me earlier not to unfreeze birds. And this is important!<br />
Thanks ;)))<br />
Henk, I will put some flowers for Maria with pleasure as soon as I will be in my village. When I really started to look photos on this site I discovered the world!!! So not only setternose but also setter lovers.<br />
I remember, first were photos from far far North, tundra in Lapland. I think I will never go there, but sitting in my room i can travel all the world much interested way than with tourist office. This is advantage overestimated ever. Yes your graveyards all wit…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-27:865021:Comment:1408972009-01-27T10:07:31.082ZHenk ten Kloosterhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Setterset
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Yes your graveyards all with fresh flowers is just one happy memory.<br />
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Thanks for your update on Poland Anna, hopefully they will succeed in preserving landscapes providing a paradise for partridge. Your poverty of yesterday may mean richness for future – where there’s still feathers for setters there is harmony.<br />
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For your interest a pic of Kay, quartering first time in his young life in Poland as published in the story Poland paradise for partridge.…
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Yes your graveyards all with fresh flowers is just one happy memory.<br />
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Thanks for your update on Poland Anna, hopefully they will succeed in preserving landscapes providing a paradise for partridge. Your poverty of yesterday may mean richness for future – where there’s still feathers for setters there is harmony.<br />
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For your interest a pic of Kay, quartering first time in his young life in Poland as published in the story Poland paradise for partridge. Its Spring 1998. Still remember the thrill, conducting for the first time with hand signals a setter over large terrains. This is the dog “beaten” up by a hare later reaching for horizons in a snowstorm.<br />
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You see no better guide to worlds best landscapes than a setternose.<br />
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A request: put a few flowers near a statue of Maria, she deserves it and I forgot to do so! Thank you, Gennadi, for these…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-26:865021:Comment:1408172009-01-26T22:32:24.724ZAnna Kazimierowiczhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/AnnaKazimierowicz
Thank you, Gennadi, for these films. On the begging I watched yours short excerpts on russian point dogs.<br />
I have in fridge duck and pheasant or even jay (I found her dead under an electrical pillar and used to use her to teach Kruszyna to find a lost bird). What are you thinking about work with jay - is it good for dog?
Thank you, Gennadi, for these films. On the begging I watched yours short excerpts on russian point dogs.<br />
I have in fridge duck and pheasant or even jay (I found her dead under an electrical pillar and used to use her to teach Kruszyna to find a lost bird). What are you thinking about work with jay - is it good for dog? Sorry, but computer added my…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-26:865021:Comment:1405882009-01-26T16:56:33.563ZAnna Kazimierowiczhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/AnnaKazimierowicz
Sorry, but computer added my answer before Henk post. Why??/
Sorry, but computer added my answer before Henk post. Why??/ Henk, I didn't write about la…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-26:865021:Comment:1405862009-01-26T16:55:15.539ZAnna Kazimierowiczhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/AnnaKazimierowicz
Henk, I didn't write about lack of birds but about hunters' preferencies. They chose German pointing dogs or Czech fousek f.e., because these breeds (in their view) are easier and quicker to teach, so that with these dogs hunter could work even in first year of dog's life. And in 3 areas - field, water and forest, means different game = feather and fur. If we are thinking about British pointing dogs - only pointer was popular and appreciated between hunters as a fields' king.<br />
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Henk, I didn't write about lack of birds but about hunters' preferencies. They chose German pointing dogs or Czech fousek f.e., because these breeds (in their view) are easier and quicker to teach, so that with these dogs hunter could work even in first year of dog's life. And in 3 areas - field, water and forest, means different game = feather and fur. If we are thinking about British pointing dogs - only pointer was popular and appreciated between hunters as a fields' king.<br />
About setters there was common opinnion, that he is a bit crazy, to much energetic, hard to teach = long lasting. Setter grow up in age of 3, so hunter must wait very long for possibility of work with him.<br />
For dozens of years we have had 1 (almost historical) Polish interchampion, it means setter with field trials diploma = that dog could get Int.Ch. title.<br />
Now with big development of cynology in our country we have here many new pointing dogs (VII FCI) breeds. Setters' lovers start to teach them hunting job, during las few years we got few Int.Ch. Some people really hunt with setters and setters starts in field trials or pointing dogs hunting contests.<br />
Tthere is even new trend, very often take part and now and than win dogs who never hunt, only are teached on trainnings to progress their natural instincts. My friends got f.e. polish hunting dogs or polish hounds or dachtshunds, very well taught, with many diplomas of blood trail or boars work, never hunt but some of them helped to find wounded game few times.<br />
Problems with lack of birds started last years when our agriculture changed, when started modern bigareas monocultivation - about that problem fine wrote Renata in treat Problems with hunters... There are some places in Poland with good amount of birds, where hunters or setters' lovers can work. As I know some contests are prepared with raising birds. After West Europe experience with monocultive agriculture now we have some programs promoting (also with money for farmers from EC) to leave natural small fields with bushes on boundary strips and not only here.<br />
Your adventures in Poland are for me natural. Poland is a country that loves peoples with fancy and dash. Adventures are second nature to us. (I named Przygoda = Adventure one of Bajka's daughters). In bad circumstances many saints and Maria and Jezus help us. Therefore we have many figures of saints along roads, at crossroads, in front of houses.This is an old tradition.Even now when somebody is building new house in countryside, he leaves wayside shrine or saint figure in place were it was placed for years, very often renew it and care for it. This is a wide theme for history of art and religion fanciers.<br />
And you see, talking stories about yours dogs adventure with hare is the best way how to teach dog to respect game.<br />
Fine story, but were are these winters with snow up to roofs, eh.... Years ago in Poland we have h…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-26:865021:Comment:1403322009-01-26T09:12:25.297ZHenk ten Kloosterhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Setterset
<b>Years ago in Poland we have had common opinion that setter is a dog only for family and show.</b> wrote Anna.<br />
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In the nineties we used to train & trial with huge groups of setters and pointers in Poland, organized by the Irish Setter Club of Germany. With international trials and Cacits from three countries, Austria, Switzerland, Germany. Thats when I wrote <b>Poland partridge paradise</b>.<br />
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So surprised to read about that common opinion - especially a setter able to point and retrieve…
<b>Years ago in Poland we have had common opinion that setter is a dog only for family and show.</b> wrote Anna.<br />
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In the nineties we used to train & trial with huge groups of setters and pointers in Poland, organized by the Irish Setter Club of Germany. With international trials and Cacits from three countries, Austria, Switzerland, Germany. Thats when I wrote <b>Poland partridge paradise</b>.<br />
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So surprised to read about that common opinion - especially a setter able to point and retrieve fur and feathers could do a great job over there.<br />
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By the way I'll never forget your beautiful terrains, not only because of being lost with two red setters in a snowstorm, a statue of Maria offering help. As well because my dog Kay became as a youngster forever harefree over there. The hare stood up and beated him with its forelegs in the face!!! He never chased them. First off all, thanks Katarii…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-25:865021:Comment:1397792009-01-25T14:28:41.674ZAnna Kazimierowiczhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/AnnaKazimierowicz
First off all, thanks Katariina for your answers. Thanks other persons for adding new posts.<br />
Maybe for somebody is funny give these questions here but I know few persons who visit this site, they are interested in hunting work with their setters and are just on the begining on that way.<br />
Years ago in Poland we have had common opinion that setter is a dog only for family and show.<br />
HUnters in their own circle work with dogs, but rather other breeds, for years most popular was german P.D. because…
First off all, thanks Katariina for your answers. Thanks other persons for adding new posts.<br />
Maybe for somebody is funny give these questions here but I know few persons who visit this site, they are interested in hunting work with their setters and are just on the begining on that way.<br />
Years ago in Poland we have had common opinion that setter is a dog only for family and show.<br />
HUnters in their own circle work with dogs, but rather other breeds, for years most popular was german P.D. because he can be a versatile dog for hunter.<br />
Last 2-3 years in Poland we had few courses for pointing dogs owners organized by Vizsla Club. It was very interesting take part in them. There are plans for another trainings with setters.<br />
Meanwhile we can learn a bit here as well.<br />
I've read 86 posts in discussion about problems with hunters... Happily there were interesting posts of history of breed, not only arguing.<br />
I've found information about "catching pheasants that were caught with glue traps" - it was passus about hunt in previous ages by Christiane. Does anybody can explain what was this glue trap and what look that hunting like? All my puppies have chosen me…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-25:865021:Comment:1397422009-01-25T12:02:50.415ZDee Rancehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/DeeRance
All my puppies have chosen me, all but one, and I must say that the last one turned out to be 'full of character' well she is completely NUTS!!! but I love her to bits, she has 'started' to learn to work and she is reasonable as a show dog, and hopefully will be good as a brood bitch, what more can you ask for in a dog?????
All my puppies have chosen me, all but one, and I must say that the last one turned out to be 'full of character' well she is completely NUTS!!! but I love her to bits, she has 'started' to learn to work and she is reasonable as a show dog, and hopefully will be good as a brood bitch, what more can you ask for in a dog????? Thats my problem!! I'm not ve…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-24:865021:Comment:1394092009-01-24T09:08:40.825ZCarmel Murphyhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Clannrua
Thats my problem!! I'm not very competitive!;o)))
Thats my problem!! I'm not very competitive!;o))) Obedience for fun?
Hey Carmel…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-24:865021:Comment:1394072009-01-24T09:05:57.236Zursula wilbyhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/mossby188
Obedience for fun?<br />
Hey Carmel, Obedience is <b>ONLY</b> for winning!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
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Just joking :-)
Obedience for fun?<br />
Hey Carmel, Obedience is <b>ONLY</b> for winning!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
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Just joking :-)