I would welcome input, Dublin had a seizure about an hour ago....UPDATE - Exclusively Setters2024-03-29T11:16:36Zhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/i-would-welcome-input-dublin?commentId=865021%3AComment%3A249254&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Sue if this is repeat then…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-08-14:865021:Comment:3649192010-08-14T13:05:14.299ZOssianhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Ossian
Hi Sue if this is repeat then apologies I am really busy with stuff at the moment. But. dont wrap Dublin in cotton wool. If you think stress brings this on then dont stress while i think of this has Dublin possibly been poisoned... antifreeze??<br />
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You have a very important role to perform here. Get past the awful sight of your dog in seizure. the elctronic impulses in the brain have simply "redirected" and like a circuit breaker the body systems have shut down very quicklly and the movement and…
Hi Sue if this is repeat then apologies I am really busy with stuff at the moment. But. dont wrap Dublin in cotton wool. If you think stress brings this on then dont stress while i think of this has Dublin possibly been poisoned... antifreeze??<br />
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You have a very important role to perform here. Get past the awful sight of your dog in seizure. the elctronic impulses in the brain have simply "redirected" and like a circuit breaker the body systems have shut down very quicklly and the movement and reaction you see are just this! The machine juddering to a halt.<br />
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You have to watch him (a) to see that he doesnt hurt himself or (b) that he doesnt choke but also and more importantly.. what happpens when he fits. Try to look at Dublin objectively. does he fall, to the right, to the left. Is he "twitchy" between fits, do his pupils remain dilated. Is the head stretched back or to the side?<br />
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Epilepsy responds exceptionally well to hemoepathic meds but i understand if you want the vet to check and regulate him first. You may want to find out if he is stressing and use something like Skullcap and Vallerian to calm him.<br />
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It isnt a disaster and its amazing how quickly you recognise the signs. One word of warning if he has to be withut human company, dont leave him with another dog and best put him in a cage where he can feel safe. Im with Ursula! It WASNT the…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-08-14:865021:Comment:3649172010-08-14T12:49:28.332ZOssianhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Ossian
Im with Ursula! It WASNT the bath. Its just been a coincidence
Im with Ursula! It WASNT the bath. Its just been a coincidence Sue,
I had a bitch 40 years a…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-08-14:865021:Comment:3647792010-08-14T06:36:34.950ZJohn B. Hughes/Absinthehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/JohnBHughesDDS
Sue,<br />
I had a bitch 40 years ago that suffered from epilepsy. After a lot of medication by animal vets I had a human hospital run her blood chemistry. They told me that a dog's metabolism was greater than humans and that the dose the vets were prescribing was inadequate to solve the problem. Once she received the proper dose and it was verified by her blood chemistry the problem was solved. Hope this helps! John
Sue,<br />
I had a bitch 40 years ago that suffered from epilepsy. After a lot of medication by animal vets I had a human hospital run her blood chemistry. They told me that a dog's metabolism was greater than humans and that the dose the vets were prescribing was inadequate to solve the problem. Once she received the proper dose and it was verified by her blood chemistry the problem was solved. Hope this helps! John I got his bromide from a loca…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-10-10:865021:Comment:2496222009-10-10T00:22:44.571ZSue and Cashhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SusanLoconsole
I got his bromide from a local pharmacy down the street. Super nice people and very helpful. I think it was only like 13.00 for it. Both medications are cheap. Something good! I am going to start the half dosing in the morning. I will continue giving it on bread. He takes it just fine.
I got his bromide from a local pharmacy down the street. Super nice people and very helpful. I think it was only like 13.00 for it. Both medications are cheap. Something good! I am going to start the half dosing in the morning. I will continue giving it on bread. He takes it just fine. Susan,
it is not easy to giv…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-10-09:865021:Comment:2496172009-10-09T20:32:19.400ZAstrid Landsaathttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/AstridLandsaat
Susan,<br />
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it is not easy to give Dub an overdose of KBr. It doesn't matter if you give him once or twice a day his KBr. His stomach will tell you what"s better for him.<br />
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Astrid.
Susan,<br />
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it is not easy to give Dub an overdose of KBr. It doesn't matter if you give him once or twice a day his KBr. His stomach will tell you what"s better for him.<br />
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Astrid. Oh good to know Astrid. He to…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-10-09:865021:Comment:2496142009-10-09T19:49:46.566ZSue and Cashhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SusanLoconsole
Oh good to know Astrid. He tolerated the start of pheno very well and never had the wobbily things I read about. He was running around like nothing changed. So I feel better already now. I don't want to worry about him falling when I am gone either. The first night on the Kbr he sort of seemed a bit unsteady if he turned quickly but otherwise he is good. What do you think since I have been giving him the once a day dose of Kbr at night, is it okay to just tomorrow morning start the half dose…
Oh good to know Astrid. He tolerated the start of pheno very well and never had the wobbily things I read about. He was running around like nothing changed. So I feel better already now. I don't want to worry about him falling when I am gone either. The first night on the Kbr he sort of seemed a bit unsteady if he turned quickly but otherwise he is good. What do you think since I have been giving him the once a day dose of Kbr at night, is it okay to just tomorrow morning start the half dose twice daily? I don't want to overdose him or anything with the doses to close together. Susan,
that hind leg weaknes…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-10-09:865021:Comment:2496072009-10-09T18:55:26.486ZAstrid Landsaathttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/AstridLandsaat
Susan,<br />
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that hind leg weakness thing happens to most of the dogs. Actually Pheno and KBr did that to my girl. Don't worry, that will disappear after a few weeks.<br />
I agree that an MRI (and a spinal tap) might be a waste of money, sometimes it's obvious that epilepsy is idiopathic, like i my girl's case.
Susan,<br />
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that hind leg weakness thing happens to most of the dogs. Actually Pheno and KBr did that to my girl. Don't worry, that will disappear after a few weeks.<br />
I agree that an MRI (and a spinal tap) might be a waste of money, sometimes it's obvious that epilepsy is idiopathic, like i my girl's case. Ohhhh vivian, does that hind…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-10-09:865021:Comment:2495972009-10-09T18:19:05.818ZSue and Cashhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SusanLoconsole
Ohhhh vivian, does that hind leg weakness happen to all dogs? Will it go away with time? That doesn't sound good at all. Not if I want an active dog. Sigh.....this sucks more everyday. He said given his breed and age that an MRI would be a waste of money at this point. I told him I do not have that kind of money. My boy loves to run. I would hate to see him unhappy if his body doesn't go along with his mind. Do you find it does effect your dogs activity then?
Ohhhh vivian, does that hind leg weakness happen to all dogs? Will it go away with time? That doesn't sound good at all. Not if I want an active dog. Sigh.....this sucks more everyday. He said given his breed and age that an MRI would be a waste of money at this point. I told him I do not have that kind of money. My boy loves to run. I would hate to see him unhappy if his body doesn't go along with his mind. Do you find it does effect your dogs activity then? I am seeing Dr. Darrin at the…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-10-09:865021:Comment:2495542009-10-09T13:13:12.536ZSue and Cashhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SusanLoconsole
I am seeing Dr. Darrin at the Vet Specialty Center in Buffalo Grove IL. They are a wonderful place and we used them for Dermology with our last dog. There are only a couple neuro's in the area and the other one wanted me to take out a loan before I came in so they could do MRI's etc. That turned me off right away. Dublin stopped clustering after the first dose of bromide and we saw him two days later. Maybe that is why he didn't do a loading dose? HE told me he didn't have too because he was on…
I am seeing Dr. Darrin at the Vet Specialty Center in Buffalo Grove IL. They are a wonderful place and we used them for Dermology with our last dog. There are only a couple neuro's in the area and the other one wanted me to take out a loan before I came in so they could do MRI's etc. That turned me off right away. Dublin stopped clustering after the first dose of bromide and we saw him two days later. Maybe that is why he didn't do a loading dose? HE told me he didn't have too because he was on pheno. My regular vet spoke to me last night and said twice a day is fine on the bromide. So I started that today even though he seems to be tolerating it on the evening only dose. I am so sorry to hear of your loss Vivian. And thankfully I don't give Dublin salty foods. I will be even more careful now that I know this. They didn't say anything about that either. He has eaten Pro Plan Salmon…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-10-09:865021:Comment:2494852009-10-09T00:43:01.684ZSue and Cashhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SusanLoconsole
He has eaten Pro Plan Salmon and Rice for sensitive systems for two years. No corn or wheat in it. But some oatmeal. He has always done wonderful on it, without weight issues. Changing him (I tried several times slowly) to Wellness or Fromm didn't work out well. He got sick. He had bad stomach issues for so long. But we noticed since taking the medications he has snatched some people food that would of killed his gut before and now doesn't seem to bother him at all. We wonder if it was a…
He has eaten Pro Plan Salmon and Rice for sensitive systems for two years. No corn or wheat in it. But some oatmeal. He has always done wonderful on it, without weight issues. Changing him (I tried several times slowly) to Wellness or Fromm didn't work out well. He got sick. He had bad stomach issues for so long. But we noticed since taking the medications he has snatched some people food that would of killed his gut before and now doesn't seem to bother him at all. We wonder if it was a nervous stomach all along and the meds seem to have chilled him out somewhat. I say somewhat because to me he sleeps well when he isn't starving. But his activity level hasn't changed at all. He still wants to run and play in the wood daily. He just naps a bit more. The doctor thought if we change his food now, we won't know if it is the bromide bothering it or the food change. So we figured we should wait a few weeks to be sure he handles the meds okay. I might be trying the Whitefish/Sweet Potato natural balance food here in the states. I like simple ingredients.<br />
And we prefer to keep him on a fish based food. I just read I can, if his stomach wigs out, give him the bromide twice a day with his food and it is better tolerated that way. I can try that as well.