liver shunts - Exclusively Setters2024-03-29T02:20:54Zhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/liver-shunts?x=1&id=865021%3ATopic%3A1089530&feed=yes&xn_auth=nosame concern here
tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-04-17:865021:Comment:10947192013-04-17T13:46:11.693ZChantal McIlveen-Wrighthttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/ChantalMcIlveenWright
<p>same concern here</p>
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<p>same concern here</p>
<p></p> thanks for sharing this link…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-04-17:865021:Comment:10947152013-04-17T13:41:57.996ZChantal McIlveen-Wrighthttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/ChantalMcIlveenWright
<p>thanks for sharing this link Howard!!! very interesting for me as my old boy was "suspected" to have an internal liver shunt at the age of 4 years. The fatty acid test, blood tests, etc. was definitely pointing to a shunt, but after many other exams at the animal hospital and 3 biopsies the consultant said it was not conclusive, and we still don't know what is the matter with him. Darwin is now 8 and a half, more the poet sniffing dog than a bouncing one, but still living happily although…</p>
<p>thanks for sharing this link Howard!!! very interesting for me as my old boy was "suspected" to have an internal liver shunt at the age of 4 years. The fatty acid test, blood tests, etc. was definitely pointing to a shunt, but after many other exams at the animal hospital and 3 biopsies the consultant said it was not conclusive, and we still don't know what is the matter with him. Darwin is now 8 and a half, more the poet sniffing dog than a bouncing one, but still living happily although sleeping a lot.</p> Does Ronnie endlessly walk ar…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-04-15:865021:Comment:10942972013-04-15T16:49:20.520ZMartin Rowleshttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/MartinRowles
<p>Does Ronnie endlessly walk around in circles goin in an anti clockwise direction? This is a major indicator for a liver shunt. Also If it is a liver shunt always try the operation to close as long as the AHT say so as it is worth a try. When the vets say low protein.... they mean mega low so ideal foods are low protein cottage cheese etc.. stay clear of processed dog foods except the ones which specify mega low protein. They are very expensive !!! You could also try Nature Diet Senior…</p>
<p>Does Ronnie endlessly walk around in circles goin in an anti clockwise direction? This is a major indicator for a liver shunt. Also If it is a liver shunt always try the operation to close as long as the AHT say so as it is worth a try. When the vets say low protein.... they mean mega low so ideal foods are low protein cottage cheese etc.. stay clear of processed dog foods except the ones which specify mega low protein. They are very expensive !!! You could also try Nature Diet Senior which is low protein and comes in a little plastic tray / tub. I think Purina do an off the shelf hypoallergenic food in a black bag???? which basically doesn't have any cantagions in it. Renal food can alos be looked into as it is also very low protein. If it is a liver shunt then do not do the usual acclimatisation process as you would for a new food, just whip him straight off and on to the medicated / low protein / renal food straight away as basically whatever you feed him poisons him. However, first things first do the tests and the x-ray and get the AHT to analyze, they really are very very good.</p> Don't forget to change diet s…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-04-05:865021:Comment:10918602013-04-05T14:43:57.491ZJean Lippetthttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/JeanLippett
<p>Don't forget to change diet slowly, Paul - I start with 4 parts old food, 1 part new; the next day, 3 parts old, 2 parts new, then 2 and 3 the third day 1 old, 4 new the fourth and all new the fifth day, not just a sudden switch.</p>
<p>Don't forget to change diet slowly, Paul - I start with 4 parts old food, 1 part new; the next day, 3 parts old, 2 parts new, then 2 and 3 the third day 1 old, 4 new the fourth and all new the fifth day, not just a sudden switch.</p> I am pleased that Ronnie seem…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-04-05:865021:Comment:10917492013-04-05T13:47:01.546ZHoward Glansfieldhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/HowardGlansfield
<p>I am pleased that Ronnie seems ok but I don't understand how a vet can diagnose a serious condition like a liver shunt and then put him back on the food that seemed to cause the problem without even a blood test.Maybe it is just me but that doesn't seem logical.</p>
<p>I am pleased that Ronnie seems ok but I don't understand how a vet can diagnose a serious condition like a liver shunt and then put him back on the food that seemed to cause the problem without even a blood test.Maybe it is just me but that doesn't seem logical.</p> Wonderful news Paul, sooooooo…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-04-05:865021:Comment:10919402013-04-05T09:39:29.488ZAngela Clarkehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/AngelaClarke
<p>Wonderful news Paul, sooooooo pleased for you all, I was very worried as you hadn`t been on here. Enjoy your pup as you should do and hope that it was just the sudden change of food <:0))))))))))))</p>
<p>Thank you for letting us Know,</p>
<p>Wonderful news Paul, sooooooo pleased for you all, I was very worried as you hadn`t been on here. Enjoy your pup as you should do and hope that it was just the sudden change of food <:0))))))))))))</p>
<p>Thank you for letting us Know,</p> Phew, Paul, what a huge relie…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-04-05:865021:Comment:10918332013-04-05T09:39:27.925ZSusan Stonehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SwissSusan
<p>Phew, Paul, what a huge relief! So pleased your pup is not seriously ill.</p>
<p>Phew, Paul, what a huge relief! So pleased your pup is not seriously ill.</p> Our Vet was very pleased with…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-04-05:865021:Comment:10918282013-04-05T09:32:10.283Zpaul collinshttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/paulcollins
<p>Our Vet was very pleased with Ronnie and after giving him a full check,told us to put him back on the orijen and to see what happens.......no need to do any blood tests unless he goes again.</p>
<p>Our Vet was very pleased with Ronnie and after giving him a full check,told us to put him back on the orijen and to see what happens.......no need to do any blood tests unless he goes again.</p> HI Paul, sorry I coudnt comme…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-04-04:865021:Comment:10913342013-04-04T07:44:31.807Zsilviahttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/silviamarco
<p>HI Paul, sorry I coudnt comment since I dont know much about liver shunts, but we are thinking about you.. i hope the tests showed something less serious and you find out a cause soon..</p>
<p>as for the training: patience, patience, patience and method... I woudnt expect a puppy to be clean before quite a few time , but eventually they get there ;) (as, as other said, `incidents` after play sessions or for other random reasons may occur up to a few months of age..)</p>
<p>the first time we…</p>
<p>HI Paul, sorry I coudnt comment since I dont know much about liver shunts, but we are thinking about you.. i hope the tests showed something less serious and you find out a cause soon..</p>
<p>as for the training: patience, patience, patience and method... I woudnt expect a puppy to be clean before quite a few time , but eventually they get there ;) (as, as other said, `incidents` after play sessions or for other random reasons may occur up to a few months of age..)</p>
<p>the first time we went in a hotel room with Oberon he was 4-5 months old, and we were sooo paranoic about the possibility that he could wee the hotel carpet that we set an alarm every couple of hours and each time we carried him downstairs and out from the back door .. probably not necessary, but I am glad we did since he was peeing at every wake-up;)</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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<p></p> When will you get the results…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-04-03:865021:Comment:10914852013-04-03T13:12:29.643ZHoward Glansfieldhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/HowardGlansfield
<p>When will you get the results Paul? I hope Ronnie is doing well.</p>
<p>When will you get the results Paul? I hope Ronnie is doing well.</p>