Nail Trimming Problems Revisited - Exclusively Setters2024-03-19T02:48:16Zhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/nail-trimming-problems-revisited?commentId=865021%3AComment%3A840794&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noJoe is loving that tool. He…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-09:865021:Comment:8407942011-11-09T01:24:02.072ZSue and Cashhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SusanLoconsole
<p>Joe is loving that tool. He does his mother's Golden with it and ran over to do my sister in laws Golden tonight who is a fuss bucket about it too. Can't wait to hear how that went. Click on the link I left above to see it. It is powerful enough that it seriously does take the whole tip right off in 3-4 seconds. That is all the time they recommend you put a nail in it. Joe thinks the motor on it is as powerful as his shop dremel. It has this recharageable battery pack for it. …</p>
<p>Joe is loving that tool. He does his mother's Golden with it and ran over to do my sister in laws Golden tonight who is a fuss bucket about it too. Can't wait to hear how that went. Click on the link I left above to see it. It is powerful enough that it seriously does take the whole tip right off in 3-4 seconds. That is all the time they recommend you put a nail in it. Joe thinks the motor on it is as powerful as his shop dremel. It has this recharageable battery pack for it. Although it sort of looks like the pedi paws thing that was a joke - it isn't the same as far as power. That pedi paws one takes a couple double A batteries. Which can't produce enough power. This take that further with more power but the plastic tip to put the nail inside of it. </p> I know Tracy, we invested in…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-08:865021:Comment:8405692011-11-08T20:41:05.347ZSue and Cashhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SusanLoconsole
<p>I know Tracy, we invested in a good dremel which luckily my husband has found many uses for in the garage anyway. But this one just works better for nervous nellie Cash.</p>
<p>It is as powerful it just has the attachment to slip the nail inside so I don't have to hang on for dear life. Tracy you have done Cash enough times to know the last time was a not a fun time! Well he got worse since you saw him last. I won't give up though. I hear your voice telling me he has to have it done and…</p>
<p>I know Tracy, we invested in a good dremel which luckily my husband has found many uses for in the garage anyway. But this one just works better for nervous nellie Cash.</p>
<p>It is as powerful it just has the attachment to slip the nail inside so I don't have to hang on for dear life. Tracy you have done Cash enough times to know the last time was a not a fun time! Well he got worse since you saw him last. I won't give up though. I hear your voice telling me he has to have it done and he has to toughen up about it.</p> You described Cash to a tee T…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-08:865021:Comment:8402922011-11-08T13:10:30.387ZSue and Cashhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SusanLoconsole
<p>You described Cash to a tee Tracy! I noticed the past few times we are about to begin Cash is trembling with his tail tucked. That is a bit new since it used to be more of a rodeo. He does for sure show fear now. But again like you said. We move forward with it. I am hoping that he will learn to if not like it....tolerate it without shaking. It is sad to have to upset your dog that way. But in life, somethings are just necessary. Bite the bullet Cash!</p>
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<p>You described Cash to a tee Tracy! I noticed the past few times we are about to begin Cash is trembling with his tail tucked. That is a bit new since it used to be more of a rodeo. He does for sure show fear now. But again like you said. We move forward with it. I am hoping that he will learn to if not like it....tolerate it without shaking. It is sad to have to upset your dog that way. But in life, somethings are just necessary. Bite the bullet Cash!</p>
<p> </p> ROFL your a riot! Why do you…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-08:865021:Comment:8398752011-11-08T03:11:27.301ZSue and Cashhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SusanLoconsole
ROFL your a riot! Why do you need two of them? How about turning on the dremel and laying it down like near you. Then give him some super special treat just for it being on. After a few days of this maybe he will associate the sound with good things? Just a thought. We bought ours in the store, if you have Petco in CA you could just look at it. Good luck keep me posted. And your so right about the Xanax and us!! Oh and the angle doesn't matter...you just push that nail right in…
ROFL your a riot! Why do you need two of them? How about turning on the dremel and laying it down like near you. Then give him some super special treat just for it being on. After a few days of this maybe he will associate the sound with good things? Just a thought. We bought ours in the store, if you have Petco in CA you could just look at it. Good luck keep me posted. And your so right about the Xanax and us!! Oh and the angle doesn't matter...you just push that nail right in there. It grinds it off so quickly. My husband has been doing Cash every couple days because we can only do a few at a time before he gets a bit flippy on us. But we see progress each time in his stress levels.<br/> LOL, How could I have missed…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-08:865021:Comment:8397842011-11-08T02:36:04.878ZLesliehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/LeslieM
<p>LOL, How could I have missed the link?</p>
<p>Although I needed your description..wouldn't have understood how it worked from the site. It is worth paying $50 ($25*2) to be able to do his nails... do you not have to worry about the angle, or just get it into the hole for 3 seconds? That does sound less stressful. I may end up with one of the Peticures too! I'll have to find some hobby to take up that requires the Dremel in that case. </p>
<p>I'll play with the dremel and get him used to the…</p>
<p>LOL, How could I have missed the link?</p>
<p>Although I needed your description..wouldn't have understood how it worked from the site. It is worth paying $50 ($25*2) to be able to do his nails... do you not have to worry about the angle, or just get it into the hole for 3 seconds? That does sound less stressful. I may end up with one of the Peticures too! I'll have to find some hobby to take up that requires the Dremel in that case. </p>
<p>I'll play with the dremel and get him used to the sound... that will be needed regardless of which one... and report back.</p>
<p>Although maybe we're going about this all wrong, perhaps the <em>owner</em> is supposed to take the Xanax, not the dog! ;-)</p>
<p>Leslie</p>
<p>PS. I'll be sure to yell GOOD BOY CASH! ;-) That seems like the most important part, well, it is definitely my favorite part... I can see you with your chorus cheering Cash on! ;-) </p>
<p> </p> I gave you the link to the pr…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-08:865021:Comment:8396392011-11-08T01:13:50.153ZSue and Cashhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SusanLoconsole
I gave you the link to the product Leslie so you can see what it is. You can't make it out but it is actually a plastic type cap on it, with a cut out for a nail. Just one!! ROFL the whole paw in, wouldn't that be cool though. Anyway you put in one nail for just 3 seconds! And seriously it does take the tip right off it. It is a dremel but it is enclosed within the unit so you only have to struggle to get in one nail quickly. Then we all yell GOOD BOY CASH and give him a cookie. He…
I gave you the link to the product Leslie so you can see what it is. You can't make it out but it is actually a plastic type cap on it, with a cut out for a nail. Just one!! ROFL the whole paw in, wouldn't that be cool though. Anyway you put in one nail for just 3 seconds! And seriously it does take the tip right off it. It is a dremel but it is enclosed within the unit so you only have to struggle to get in one nail quickly. Then we all yell GOOD BOY CASH and give him a cookie. He usually won't eat it because if stressed he won't eat. But after wards when I say all done....great boy and hug him up. He then eats all the cookies he dropped. I have tried everything and this so far is working better than anything else. The motor on it is powerful enough just like our shop dremel is. Let me know what you think of it and how it works overtime for you. I have twisted Cash's hair in a dremel before and I just quickly shut it off and honestly it doesn't even tear out the hair so don't worry if you chose to just use the regular kind. I do suggest this other one because it is safer and easier. Hi Sue,
Yes, I'm in the US, o…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-08:865021:Comment:8398742011-11-08T00:46:52.238ZLesliehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/LeslieM
<p>Hi Sue,</p>
<p>Yes, I'm in the US, out in California, so I'll take a look at Petco... is it a dremel equivalent or something you use with the dremel? I'm not picturing how you put the paw into something, but I'd love to be able to put his paw in something and pull it out with the nails all done! Somehow I think that is probably not what you're describing, but a girl can dream! ;-)</p>
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<p>I picked up an actual dremel (7300), just haven't gotten the nerve to use it yet... but I'm…</p>
<p>Hi Sue,</p>
<p>Yes, I'm in the US, out in California, so I'll take a look at Petco... is it a dremel equivalent or something you use with the dremel? I'm not picturing how you put the paw into something, but I'd love to be able to put his paw in something and pull it out with the nails all done! Somehow I think that is probably not what you're describing, but a girl can dream! ;-)</p>
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<p>I picked up an actual dremel (7300), just haven't gotten the nerve to use it yet... but I'm working with him on it. I was at a session where they recommended pulling an old nylon over the paw and poke the nails thru to keep the hair back, but he is so suspicious of me where his paws are concerned, I think that he'd know something weird was going to happen. I'll go with your suggestion and try trimming the hair back between his toes, etc.</p>
<p>If I could make progress on the nails it would be a big worry off my mind!</p>
<p>Leslie</p> Oh Leslie, everything you des…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-07:865021:Comment:8396382011-11-07T22:36:59.682ZSue and Cashhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SusanLoconsole
Oh Leslie, everything you describe is the same here that we have had going on for over a year now. I have found something that is working for us. Oh and our vet did prescribe the Xanax and I never filled it. I felt horrible about that idea. She called me to talk about it and assure me on it, but in the end I just couldn't go that far with it. We find that the dremel is less stressful for sure. No chance of cutting his quick either. And if you have hair over the nails then cut that off…
Oh Leslie, everything you describe is the same here that we have had going on for over a year now. I have found something that is working for us. Oh and our vet did prescribe the Xanax and I never filled it. I felt horrible about that idea. She called me to talk about it and assure me on it, but in the end I just couldn't go that far with it. We find that the dremel is less stressful for sure. No chance of cutting his quick either. And if you have hair over the nails then cut that off first. Work on seeing how he lets you trim his foot hairs. I keep Cash's trimmed often because it just attracts more mud and soon snow and ice packing in there. He will let me trim his feet just fine. That might help to work on that so your's can see that it doesn't touch his nails or hurt. I do it after mine has been out running and playing so he is relaxed and I just do a little each night. Even one foot at a time. And they don't look great either! I am practicing on getting better at it. He won't stay still long enough to get it just right. Okay so are you in the US? Petco has this thing that looks like a petipaw thing that they sold on TV and all over but was a joke because it was battery powered and didn't take off squat. But being able to put the nail into the hole was nice because it is easy to do on a flailing do and not as likely to catch your dog's hairs in it then. So this thing at petco is like that but way more powerful. It has a rechargeable battery pack. And seriously it says to just put the nail in for 3 seconds at a time. And it really works. It just takes the whole end of it. We loved it. So we have gotten where we can do like one paw each sitting and he isn't quite as bad. Let me know if you are in the US first <a href="http://www.petco.com/product/110062/Peticure-Elite-To-As-Seen-on-TV.aspx">http://www.petco.com/product/110062/Peticure-Elite-To-As-Seen-on-TV.aspx</a> Hi Sue,
I'm with you and it i…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-07:865021:Comment:8397802011-11-07T21:58:32.687ZLesliehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/LeslieM
<p>Hi Sue,</p>
<p>I'm with you and it is stressing me out to no end. I have similar problems with my 7 month old... so I will be very interested in what you try and how it works.</p>
<p>I've been working with him on the paws, he lets me hold them and play with his front, and is pretty good about the back although he gets impatient with them more quickly. He has become very wary as I tried and got the quick once early on. Now he views anything I have in my hands when he is lying down with great…</p>
<p>Hi Sue,</p>
<p>I'm with you and it is stressing me out to no end. I have similar problems with my 7 month old... so I will be very interested in what you try and how it works.</p>
<p>I've been working with him on the paws, he lets me hold them and play with his front, and is pretty good about the back although he gets impatient with them more quickly. He has become very wary as I tried and got the quick once early on. Now he views anything I have in my hands when he is lying down with great suspicion.</p>
<p>Now I've been working back up to clipping, showing him the clippers and can sometimes rub them against his paws, but he freaks and start flailing his paws if I tried to put it on the nail. That was how I caught the quick before, I thought it was positioned correctly, but he pushed me away as I was clipping and the clipper moved a little. I'm paranoid about hurting him, I've even picked up a dremel to try, but I'm just as traumatized as he is about the whole thing. With the dremel you have to be careful about getting his hair caught...</p>
<p>I took him to a pet store and he fought too much with them... it is looking like having the vet do it is the next step, but the person I talked to at the vet encouraged me to keep trying since it would traumatize him more to have strange people hold him down in a strange place and cut his nails. He's way to big and strong for me to restrain when he is in that state.</p>
<p>The situation was not helped by some ear problems, I had to put drops in his ears every night for 3 weeks and so each evening he watched me to see if I'd pick anything up that wasn't food, i.e., the bottle with ear medicine. He got very worried each evening as bed time approached, scrunching up his face and watching me from the corner of the room and refusing to come near... of course in the morning all was forgotten and he just wanted to me to sit on his bed and play with him.</p>
<p>The vet's office didn't mention giving me something like Xanax I could use at home... that might show promise if it worked, since if I can do it at home and over time he might get used to it and I could wean him off the Xanax, but I wonder what the side effects are with dogs... never heard of giving it to dogs.</p>
<p>Please let us know what you end up trying and how it works! I am sure there are a lot of people in the same situation.</p> I am going to take him to the…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-10-14:865021:Comment:8251602011-10-14T19:07:11.655ZSue and Cashhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SusanLoconsole
<p>I am going to take him to the vet with me since they expect me to pick up the meds later today.</p>
<p>I will chat with her. She was Dubs vet also and knows how neurotic I can be about my boy. I am sure she will offer some help. I wish they could just strap him into something to hold him and do the deed quickly with meds. Of course that would mean he would HATE going to the vet then!! Not a good idea either I guess. </p>
<p>I am going to take him to the vet with me since they expect me to pick up the meds later today.</p>
<p>I will chat with her. She was Dubs vet also and knows how neurotic I can be about my boy. I am sure she will offer some help. I wish they could just strap him into something to hold him and do the deed quickly with meds. Of course that would mean he would HATE going to the vet then!! Not a good idea either I guess. </p>