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Hi, my 8mth old red setter is welcoming us  when we come down in the morning  mouthing still for at least 20 mins any ideas how to stop him. He also his very fussy with his eating any ideas there.

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Hi sherry ,thanks for your advice i have not got a crate yet  somehow don' fancy that... besides i would have a job getting him in it he would wrap his legs around us so we can't even put him outside when he's naughty, he's always pinching things. I never realised how naughty and manipulating these dogs are, i have had big bold German Shepherds but Paddy I never known anything like him, but i do admire him and love him.....ps and we can't even sit on our settee cause he's on it lol

He's got your number big time! I'm going to suggest obedience classes..and lots of mini training sessions during the day. I just did a few minutes here and there (with favored treat they only got at that time)and soon had them sitting on their own hoping that counted as training! I used teeny,tiny treats that a purse puppy would get and they were crazy about them. 

   Do you have children in the house? Our wildest Irish were the ones we had while our girls were growing up! Thing is Irish Setters are smart and you have to stay ahead of them. Lots of playing (stop if they start jumping up or mouthing you),walks with training sessions thrown into middle of them. We still have to reward the "up pup" command when we want to sit on a particular chair here (she slips in when your ready to sit but it's cause she craves that purse puppy treat (size of a baby fingernail). We didn't crate except our last two..others had their own room when we were gone. Molly (10 month old rescue) we got a crate and only used when gone but within a month started testing her for small amounts of time and found worse thing she did while we were gone was to stretch out on our bed cuddled in our pillows! So crate truly wasn't needed for her and gone within two months. Seemed to me our Irish liked an audience for their naughtiness as it usually happened when we were home.

I had a good laugh at your method of tempting Paddy to eat! I know we worry when they get finicky about eating but I haven't had one starve themselves yet. My husband worries about it but I just figure they aren't hungry yet....sometimes a small treat offered for a handshake will have them heading to their food bowl (like a wake up for their tummy). I've handfed only after illness here or a messy treat they love (to keep out of their fur). I truly laughed out loud at you meowing like a cat to try to get him to eat. Molly does like me to sit in the kitchen while she eats as she doesn't want to miss anything going on. I'm thinking you better not teach Paddy to speak or you'll never get a moment's peace! Molly retrieved our morning paper for us and fetches the mail....No reward no paper or mail is her rule! I'll admit she is spoiled rotten but one of our best behaved Irish. (Our first female and rescue). Always had male puppies before and those teenage years with them were wild....reason if you aren't training so many give up and rehome the dog! Once you get thru them you'll find all the wildness settles into a family member who will delight you with laughter, joy and love like you've never known before..and then you're  hooked! I truly looked at other pups after losing our old Gentleman Irish but while they were cute they just didn't grab my heart as an Irish Setter stole it way back in 73 and they are very addictive. Good luck with Paddy.

HI Howard, thanks for replying i have to say on fussy eating we can beat beat you hands down, if he won't eat his dinner i ,most times have to take the bowl of food outside and make out I've got an imaginary cat that's going to gobble it down, and have been caught out by the next door neighbor making mi ow noises.Well if that don't work it gets worse we,... that his  is 4 slaves get on our hands and knees making out were enjoying his food, then at last he may decide to be hand fed, hope this tells you about LORD PADDY lol thanks lizzi

I like it!!!!! We are all daft over our red friends.Some,mainly you and me, more than others!

Hello Lillian, I'm new here and I see your original post was some months ago - I wonder how things are going with your dear Paddy? My girl is 18 months now, and I have learned SO much about myself, as well as about these beautiful dogs, since I've had her. Irish Setters are SPECIAL Any owner will tell you the same, and once you've been lucky enough to have one, and grow with them through all the difficult times (and yes, they ARE difficult sometimes), you come to realise what a privilege it is to have such a wonderful dog. First, they don't have a bad bone in their bodies. They are gentle, generous, faithful and kind, and unless they are spoiled by serious ill treatment, they will never hurt a fly, and possibly not even then. Second, they REALLY want to please. It's in their breeding - they need to work in partnership with their handler, together they are a team. It's just that we humans don't always help our dogs to understand what it is we want of them, so they get confused, and play up. They also HATE being told off. They are uber sensitive dogs, and know intuitively what we are feeling. So if we shout at them or chastise them or even just keep telling them NO - it really upsets them. Occasionally I have told my girl, quite quietly, that she has been BAD. She hates that word, and comes and leans on me and licks my hand, bless her! So I've learned to use that B word very sparingly. And NO. Because essentially it is counter-productive. And I've found that the best way is to catch them doing something right, and praise them like mad, rather than look for them doing naughty things and tell them off. Amazingly, they grow up, and all those annoying puppylike behaviours, like chewing and mouthing, disappear when it's time. You can't pre-empt it, be patient and understand your young one is just behaving normally (even if it makes you feel like screaming!), and you will have a gorgeous dog when they've grown up enough to know how to behave. I don't believe you can teach these brilliant dogs manners - it's just a process they all go through as they're growing up, and with kind understanding they will get it in time.
Oh, one more thing - it was a big surprise to me to learn that many Irish Setters are fussy eaters. Mine seems to be almost afraid of her food, and the only way she'll eat is if I hand feed her! But actually I quite like it, it's a quiet few moments we have together, and less mess on the floor haha!

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