Preference when breeding? - Exclusively Setters2024-03-28T23:26:58Zhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/preference-when-breeding?id=865021%3ATopic%3A384472&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi All.
Well here we go again…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-03-26:865021:Comment:5220612011-03-26T11:10:11.958Zricky younghttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/rickyyoung
<p>Hi All.</p>
<p>Well here we go again. I don't believe there has been an infusion of Afghan blood in US bred dogs. The Afghan comes in all hound colours and is more closely related to the mesopetanian dog and therefore will more dominant genes. The red colour is not dominant gene as most IS crosses will bear the colour of the cross. (You can only get one or the other, they wont melt intoeach other) It would take at least 8 generations to breed this out not to mention equipment to find out…</p>
<p>Hi All.</p>
<p>Well here we go again. I don't believe there has been an infusion of Afghan blood in US bred dogs. The Afghan comes in all hound colours and is more closely related to the mesopetanian dog and therefore will more dominant genes. The red colour is not dominant gene as most IS crosses will bear the colour of the cross. (You can only get one or the other, they wont melt intoeach other) It would take at least 8 generations to breed this out not to mention equipment to find out what genes the offspring are carrying, technology they would not have back then. I have seen IS that look like the dogs in Cheryl's clipping/attachment with no US blood whatever ,just lack of grooming and care. Over the years the US have bred for a more showy dog and this meant more coat and big striding dogs. They may have forgotten all about other things like head, shoulders and over angulation. Straight shoulders and over angulation causes the over striding and hackneyed gaits that have appeared. (Lately in Australia). Some also resembled long haired dachunds on steroids. The unfortunate thing in Australia many breeders believe if its not imp its inferior.We have had many second string dogs exported to Australia from both US and UK. I believe the English have improved their grooming and are breeding more for the glamour side of the breed. It only stands to reason ,anyone would pick a glamour over a plain Jane or Jack.The US heads vary a lot as do UK heads. It just comes down to the fact that we have different types and we will just have to live and show with it. Who's right and who's wrong will never be resolved. Care with breeding is what is required. Everyone to their own. Could bable on for ages so just remember that all our IS are special and we all take the best one home.</p>
<p>Cheers Rick</p> Hi Kim what sort of trouble a…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-03-24:865021:Comment:5205192011-03-24T11:04:48.937ZPeter Hennighttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/PeterHennig
Hi Kim what sort of trouble are you having with your dogs coat? I brush and comb my boy two to three times a week and the day before a show he gets washed with a good quality shampoo and conditioner blown dry then light spray of leave in conditioner and a satin coat put on him and he looks and feels stunning
Hi Kim what sort of trouble are you having with your dogs coat? I brush and comb my boy two to three times a week and the day before a show he gets washed with a good quality shampoo and conditioner blown dry then light spray of leave in conditioner and a satin coat put on him and he looks and feels stunning Kim,
You ask a very good…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-03-23:865021:Comment:5182662011-03-23T06:51:25.040ZJohn B. Hughes/Absinthehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/JohnBHughesDDS
<p>Kim,</p>
<p> You ask a very good question, and I'd like to give you an easy concise answer, but there isn't one. Coat quality is very much a function of genetics coupled with proper care, health, environment and nutrition. Care needs vary from dog to dog - daily for some and weekly for others. The best advice that I can offer you is to check with others who share your dog's coat type and blood lines. They can share their experiences with you- what has or hasn't worked for…</p>
<p>Kim,</p>
<p> You ask a very good question, and I'd like to give you an easy concise answer, but there isn't one. Coat quality is very much a function of genetics coupled with proper care, health, environment and nutrition. Care needs vary from dog to dog - daily for some and weekly for others. The best advice that I can offer you is to check with others who share your dog's coat type and blood lines. They can share their experiences with you- what has or hasn't worked for them. Then you have to choose for yourself-OK? </p> What is the proper care that…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-03-22:865021:Comment:5168682011-03-22T01:44:42.893ZKim Murrayhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/KimMurray
<p>What is the proper care that you speak of for the coats. Can you please give me some idea of what you do and use to care for such big coats as I am having trouble with some of my coats? many thanks</p>
<p>What is the proper care that you speak of for the coats. Can you please give me some idea of what you do and use to care for such big coats as I am having trouble with some of my coats? many thanks</p> I think the push now is to go…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-10-19:865021:Comment:4028732010-10-19T01:05:19.676ZCassie Allenhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/CassieAllen
I think the push now is to go back toward the moderate dog. There are still the old time judges out there that will choose what they choose but the new up and coming judges are leaning towards a dog with moderate angles. I have a frieand that was asked to bring dog to the judges education and she brought all dual dogs or dog working toward the dual title or had master hunters and show championship. They let the judges pick what they like then had the handler talk about the dogs and what they…
I think the push now is to go back toward the moderate dog. There are still the old time judges out there that will choose what they choose but the new up and coming judges are leaning towards a dog with moderate angles. I have a frieand that was asked to bring dog to the judges education and she brought all dual dogs or dog working toward the dual title or had master hunters and show championship. They let the judges pick what they like then had the handler talk about the dogs and what they have achieved. Yes there where show only dogs there also. Kim.................apologies…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-10-13:865021:Comment:4004362010-10-13T21:59:27.010Zeva ciechonskahttp://irishsetters.ning.com/xn/detail/u_0gijg39gsgi1q
Kim.................apologies, hadn't been on this discussion for some time and only just saw your question. Louis grew out of this. You might try stacking him round the other way but whatever you do don't pull him back by the tail.......it only makes it worse. Have patience.......
Kim.................apologies, hadn't been on this discussion for some time and only just saw your question. Louis grew out of this. You might try stacking him round the other way but whatever you do don't pull him back by the tail.......it only makes it worse. Have patience....... ...tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-10-13:865021:Comment:3998872010-10-13T03:29:41.697ZKim Murrayhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/KimMurray
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... Hi Eva,
I am very interested…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-10-13:865021:Comment:3998852010-10-13T03:20:07.185ZKim Murrayhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/KimMurray
Hi Eva,<br />
I am very interested in your comment on your Louis throwing himself into his front as a young dog. I have one currently doing just that. DO you have any suggestions for improving it or do they just have to outgrow it? many thanks Kim
Hi Eva,<br />
I am very interested in your comment on your Louis throwing himself into his front as a young dog. I have one currently doing just that. DO you have any suggestions for improving it or do they just have to outgrow it? many thanks Kim Well saidtag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-09-28:865021:Comment:3911262010-09-28T12:14:44.773ZTina Clamphttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/mrstinaclamp
Well said
Well said Hi Jo
This is supposed to be…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-09-28:865021:Comment:3911232010-09-28T12:00:05.233ZTina Clamphttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/mrstinaclamp
Hi Jo<br />
This is supposed to be a friendly discussion and should not get personal. Noone should get personal we all love this breed surely. Please everybody, i have only been on this site for two months and i hate seeing people attacking each other. Vivian is way out of order, None of this is supposed to get personal. Chin up Joanne she needs to be ignored. take care.
Hi Jo<br />
This is supposed to be a friendly discussion and should not get personal. Noone should get personal we all love this breed surely. Please everybody, i have only been on this site for two months and i hate seeing people attacking each other. Vivian is way out of order, None of this is supposed to get personal. Chin up Joanne she needs to be ignored. take care.