ruptured aorta - Exclusively Setters2024-03-29T14:19:46Zhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/ruptured-aorta?commentId=865021%3AComment%3A168938&feed=yes&xn_auth=noLooking at the diagram on my…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-03-20:865021:Comment:1697152009-03-20T09:57:28.363ZSusan Stonehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SwissSusan
Looking at the diagram on my earlier post it would seem quite logical that a Persistent Right Aortic Arch can lead to MO symptoms...<br />
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To avoid being misunderstood, when mentioning the syndromes described as Ehler Danlos and Marfan Syndrome, I do not mean to say setters are affected by these syndromes, I mentioned them more as examples to show that 'connective tissue disorders' can have many faces and some are known and described in humans as illnesses with a genetic origin.<br />
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Sorry Elaine, if we…
Looking at the diagram on my earlier post it would seem quite logical that a Persistent Right Aortic Arch can lead to MO symptoms...<br />
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To avoid being misunderstood, when mentioning the syndromes described as Ehler Danlos and Marfan Syndrome, I do not mean to say setters are affected by these syndromes, I mentioned them more as examples to show that 'connective tissue disorders' can have many faces and some are known and described in humans as illnesses with a genetic origin.<br />
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Sorry Elaine, if we are moving away from your original question. I just feel it is worth keeping a broad view over the health problems in our breed and to ask ourselves if we are really just talking of 'individual problems' experienced by very unfortunate dogs and their owners or if this may be part of a larger picture.<br />
I don't know. "a possible link between Bloa…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-03-20:865021:Comment:1696992009-03-20T09:03:43.549ZJohanna Blacklakehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/GottaGo
"a possible link between Bloat (GDV), MO and ruptured aorta "<br />
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This came to my mind also when I went through some articles. At least one form of MO is actually due to a heart desease called PRAA, Persistent Right Aortic Arch, so who knows how these things sometimes link from one thing to another. This was a little bit of an off topic comment!
"a possible link between Bloat (GDV), MO and ruptured aorta "<br />
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This came to my mind also when I went through some articles. At least one form of MO is actually due to a heart desease called PRAA, Persistent Right Aortic Arch, so who knows how these things sometimes link from one thing to another. This was a little bit of an off topic comment! Carrying on from my thoughts…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-03-20:865021:Comment:1696602009-03-20T06:17:47.379ZSusan Stonehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SwissSusan
Carrying on from my thoughts about a possible link between Bloat (GDV), MO and ruptured aorta I've been 'googling' the web for information and I found the following link interesting:<br />
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<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connective_tissue">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connective_tissue</a><br />
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Some illnesses mentioned under 'connective tissue disorders' are Ehler Danlos with problems of joint, heart valves, organ walls, arterial walls, then Marfan Syndrome and also Systemic Lupus Erythematosus…
Carrying on from my thoughts about a possible link between Bloat (GDV), MO and ruptured aorta I've been 'googling' the web for information and I found the following link interesting:<br />
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<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connective_tissue">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connective_tissue</a><br />
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Some illnesses mentioned under 'connective tissue disorders' are Ehler Danlos with problems of joint, heart valves, organ walls, arterial walls, then Marfan Syndrome and also Systemic Lupus Erythematosus SLE.<br />
For some of these illnesses a genetic background has been found. Hi Tineke,
I was really sorry…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-03-18:865021:Comment:1691712009-03-18T10:57:47.465Zelaine barryhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/elainebarry
Hi Tineke,<br />
I was really sorry to hear about your little girl. I know how awful it is for you and you are in my thoughts,<br />
Elaine x
Hi Tineke,<br />
I was really sorry to hear about your little girl. I know how awful it is for you and you are in my thoughts,<br />
Elaine x Hi Mel,
thanks as always for…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-03-18:865021:Comment:1691692009-03-18T10:54:51.127Zelaine barryhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/elainebarry
Hi Mel,<br />
thanks as always for your continuing support, I know what happened to the boys upset you as much as it did Debbie and myself. The problem didn't go quiet with any of us, as all three of us have searched over the past couple of years for an answer, but there isn't one. I posted this discussion in a last bid effort to try and find out if there was a problem in the breed and if it is hereditary, as I want Rogans beautiful litter sister Ellie to have a litter. She will be my foundation…
Hi Mel,<br />
thanks as always for your continuing support, I know what happened to the boys upset you as much as it did Debbie and myself. The problem didn't go quiet with any of us, as all three of us have searched over the past couple of years for an answer, but there isn't one. I posted this discussion in a last bid effort to try and find out if there was a problem in the breed and if it is hereditary, as I want Rogans beautiful litter sister Ellie to have a litter. She will be my foundation bitch, so I have to make sure I am doing the right thing for myself and the breed.<br />
I think Debbie and I were just extremely unlucky to have both boys die in this way, and believe we can all look forward to a happier future with our Jonola reds. Elaine x I thank you for that Mel.
It…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-03-18:865021:Comment:1691022009-03-18T08:03:06.852ZDee Rancehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/DeeRance
I thank you for that Mel.<br />
It is wonderful that you have been so supportive about this problem, I think that is so needed, we as a breed should all pull together to try and find out just how these thing work.
I thank you for that Mel.<br />
It is wonderful that you have been so supportive about this problem, I think that is so needed, we as a breed should all pull together to try and find out just how these thing work. I know how terrible it is to…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-03-17:865021:Comment:1690062009-03-17T20:06:12.613ZTineke de Jongehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/TinekedeJonge
I know how terrible it is to loose a red friend on a rupert aorta. I lost a bitch, almost 14 months old. She was a perfect little healty bitch. On thursday she hurt herself on her left arm, at least whe thought. Friday, saturday and sunday it went every day a little bit better. I came back from a little trip on sundayevening and she was very happy to see me. Monday morning everything was oke, she was eating, went out for a walk. Just like always. Later this day she lied under the table and…
I know how terrible it is to loose a red friend on a rupert aorta. I lost a bitch, almost 14 months old. She was a perfect little healty bitch. On thursday she hurt herself on her left arm, at least whe thought. Friday, saturday and sunday it went every day a little bit better. I came back from a little trip on sundayevening and she was very happy to see me. Monday morning everything was oke, she was eating, went out for a walk. Just like always. Later this day she lied under the table and after a few strange noises she died. I was really upsad and i called the breeder and the vetclinic. Later that day the breeder came to me and whe brougt my little girl together to the vet to see here. The next day whe could bring here home. The vet had found a ruptured aorta. He also told me it was a case on his own and for as far a his knows it wasent a problem in the line. This litter is now 3 years old and no other puppy from this litter has had the same thing. Hi Mel
I hope that you don't…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-03-17:865021:Comment:1689382009-03-17T16:27:35.077ZDee Rancehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/DeeRance
Hi Mel<br />
I hope that you don't think that I was putting any blame anywhere, there is no blame to be placed. That is not what I was saying. I personally haven't got the foggiest where this has come form, I just know how devastating these things can be. Not this particular problem, but I think everyone knows that I lost all my lines in the '80's with bloat. We were told that it was a management problem, and that we were feeding and exercising at the wrong time. (I know that this is wrong now, but…
Hi Mel<br />
I hope that you don't think that I was putting any blame anywhere, there is no blame to be placed. That is not what I was saying. I personally haven't got the foggiest where this has come form, I just know how devastating these things can be. Not this particular problem, but I think everyone knows that I lost all my lines in the '80's with bloat. We were told that it was a management problem, and that we were feeding and exercising at the wrong time. (I know that this is wrong now, but it devastated us at the time, so much so that I couldn't get another Irish for a long time). That we could still breed form the dogs and their progeny, I was trying to open a conversation, to find out if there was anyone out there that may know something. That is the beauty of this site it is so wide spread, that there may be a minute chance that there could be someone else out there that has some kind of knowledge of this, and all of you together may be able to come up with something, I think that was the reason this discussion was started. I am sure that all connected with this appreciate that you were behind them 200% Please I hope that you haven't taken any offence by this....I think perhaps I didn't aught not to say any more if I am only going to offend....no offence meant, I seem to be saying this a lot nowadays. SORRY. but I just thought that the questions might help.... My girl Clara who we think di…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-03-16:865021:Comment:1685852009-03-16T21:30:57.570ZKristina Brannlund Westinhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/ninalina
My girl Clara who we think died in some kind of ruptured Aorta, also had this Aorta stenosis, so that is why I just wondered if there could be a connection, but as you say Debbie probably not...
My girl Clara who we think died in some kind of ruptured Aorta, also had this Aorta stenosis, so that is why I just wondered if there could be a connection, but as you say Debbie probably not... here is the file I forgot;o)tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-03-16:865021:Comment:1683002009-03-16T16:32:28.659ZSusan Stonehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SwissSusan
here is the file I forgot;o)
here is the file I forgot;o)