The Irish Setter Today! - Exclusively Setters2024-03-29T05:31:19Zhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/the-irish-setter-today?commentId=865021%3AComment%3A409466&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noLar,
No, I don't have any per…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-10-31:865021:Comment:4094662010-10-31T19:46:51.777ZJohn B. Hughes/Absinthehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/JohnBHughesDDS
Lar,<br />
No, I don't have any personal videos of my dogs, but if you are truly interested, I would highly recommend Rachel Page Elliot's Dogsteps, Canine Cineradiography, and Dogsteps:A New Look- all in DVD.<br />
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The most complete information on canine gait and movement! Includes anatomical diagrams and film clips of still and moving x-rays which provide a look at bone and joint motion inside the dog. Illustrations throughout the DVD emphasize the importance of sound structure and shows how serious…
Lar,<br />
No, I don't have any personal videos of my dogs, but if you are truly interested, I would highly recommend Rachel Page Elliot's Dogsteps, Canine Cineradiography, and Dogsteps:A New Look- all in DVD.<br />
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The most complete information on canine gait and movement! Includes anatomical diagrams and film clips of still and moving x-rays which provide a look at bone and joint motion inside the dog. Illustrations throughout the DVD emphasize the importance of sound structure and shows how serious deviations may affect efficiency and endurance. Suggested in combination with New Dogsteps book for even better understanding, and highly recommended for every serious fancier and certainly every breeder. For anyone wanting to serious…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-10-30:865021:Comment:4088412010-10-30T18:09:23.152ZJohn B. Hughes/Absinthehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/JohnBHughesDDS
For anyone wanting to seriously participate in this discussion, I would suggest first reading "Understanding the hock" before proceeding. It contains some basic information, familiar to some and ignored by way to many ( breeder and judge included ) , essential to any intelligent discussion concerning correct structure, angulation, and movement. <a href="http://darkstarrrotts.com/hock.htm" target="_blank">http://darkstarrrotts.com/hock.htm</a>
For anyone wanting to seriously participate in this discussion, I would suggest first reading "Understanding the hock" before proceeding. It contains some basic information, familiar to some and ignored by way to many ( breeder and judge included ) , essential to any intelligent discussion concerning correct structure, angulation, and movement. <a href="http://darkstarrrotts.com/hock.htm" target="_blank">http://darkstarrrotts.com/hock.htm</a> OK you guys-we barely touched…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-10-30:865021:Comment:4086602010-10-30T06:20:11.236ZJohn B. Hughes/Absinthehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/JohnBHughesDDS
OK you guys-we barely touched on feet and the discussion ended, so I'll move on to the <b>Hock</b>. In a sense, the hock is where movement begins. The hock is the foundation of movement for any particular dog. Understanding and assessing the hock is fundamental in understanding and assessing a dog’s movement. In a vertical line of dominos, the hock would be the lead domino. The hock, just like the domino, is what sets all other components in motion. Because of this relationship, the efficiency…
OK you guys-we barely touched on feet and the discussion ended, so I'll move on to the <b>Hock</b>. In a sense, the hock is where movement begins. The hock is the foundation of movement for any particular dog. Understanding and assessing the hock is fundamental in understanding and assessing a dog’s movement. In a vertical line of dominos, the hock would be the lead domino. The hock, just like the domino, is what sets all other components in motion. Because of this relationship, the efficiency of the lower thigh, upper thigh, back, shoulder blade, and upper arm all depend on the hock. For breeders, understanding the function and importance of the hock is essential in producing structurally sound dogs. So let's talk about what we know or don't understand about our dog's hocks (problems, breeding concerns, etc.) My dogs do both, field and sh…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-10-19:865021:Comment:4036102010-10-19T22:01:15.771ZCassie Allenhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/CassieAllen
My dogs do both, field and show, I have them in a show cut wheather they are in the field or in the show ring they just get kept up more when showing. But the feet are always tended to, we trim the hair so the burrs do not get stuck in the hair. Nail need to be trimmed for safty. All my dogs have very nice feet some larger then others but tight feet. I do not understand why some have to have there nails trimmed and others do not, but for safty my vet had told me once that many ACL injuries are…
My dogs do both, field and show, I have them in a show cut wheather they are in the field or in the show ring they just get kept up more when showing. But the feet are always tended to, we trim the hair so the burrs do not get stuck in the hair. Nail need to be trimmed for safty. All my dogs have very nice feet some larger then others but tight feet. I do not understand why some have to have there nails trimmed and others do not, but for safty my vet had told me once that many ACL injuries are caused by nails being too long. When the dog turns fast the nail catch in the carpet or grass and the ACL gets injured. Do not know if this is true but it is easy enough to prevent so we keep nail short. I am a suburbanite Margaret a…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-10-11:865021:Comment:3988882010-10-11T12:33:14.653ZSue and Cashhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SusanLoconsole
I am a suburbanite Margaret and my dog get a minimum of 90 minutes off leash free running a day.<br />
Here in the US, we have many people who live in smaller homes/condo who have access to many places to still exercise their dogs. I have a fenced yard but it isn't big enough for my dog to run around like he needs to do. And I agree that if you only plan on leaving a dog inside and taking it for an occasional walk around the neighborhood, the irish setter isn't the right breed for you. Destructive…
I am a suburbanite Margaret and my dog get a minimum of 90 minutes off leash free running a day.<br />
Here in the US, we have many people who live in smaller homes/condo who have access to many places to still exercise their dogs. I have a fenced yard but it isn't big enough for my dog to run around like he needs to do. And I agree that if you only plan on leaving a dog inside and taking it for an occasional walk around the neighborhood, the irish setter isn't the right breed for you. Destructive behavior is seen most often in dogs that don't get proper exercise and in our breed it really needs to be off leash more than on leash when young. Oh I never addressed nails. W…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-10-11:865021:Comment:3988792010-10-11T12:29:40.737ZSue and Cashhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SusanLoconsole
Oh I never addressed nails. We trim them weekly and also use a dremel. My dog isn't on concrete enough.<br />
My last setter had very little hair on him he was part field but he still grew quite a bit of hair on his feet that required trimming up.
Oh I never addressed nails. We trim them weekly and also use a dremel. My dog isn't on concrete enough.<br />
My last setter had very little hair on him he was part field but he still grew quite a bit of hair on his feet that required trimming up. And he didnt use the opportun…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-10-11:865021:Comment:3988222010-10-11T10:37:18.177ZMargaret Sierakowskihttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/MargaretSierakowski
And he didnt use the opportunity to sell you the latest and very expensive nail clippers? Sensible vet, glad to hear there are still some like this around :))
And he didnt use the opportunity to sell you the latest and very expensive nail clippers? Sensible vet, glad to hear there are still some like this around :)) Cheryl wrote
"have noticed wi…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-10-11:865021:Comment:3987722010-10-11T09:25:01.915ZMargaret Sierakowskihttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/MargaretSierakowski
Cheryl wrote<br />
"have noticed with my Irish that some of them have needed more trimming than others. I have owned a couple of Irish with flatter feet and they don't wear them on the hard surfaces as much as the ones that I have who have very firm feet with good arch."<br />
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Thats a good point. Dogs with strong feet and arched toes will naturally wear down their nails better than dogs with flat feet
Cheryl wrote<br />
"have noticed with my Irish that some of them have needed more trimming than others. I have owned a couple of Irish with flatter feet and they don't wear them on the hard surfaces as much as the ones that I have who have very firm feet with good arch."<br />
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Thats a good point. Dogs with strong feet and arched toes will naturally wear down their nails better than dogs with flat feet "As for the nail trimming I w…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-10-11:865021:Comment:3987232010-10-11T08:37:42.393ZMargaret Sierakowskihttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/MargaretSierakowski
"As for the nail trimming I would agree with her if the dog is worked regularly over a fairly rough terrain, but for "us city dwellers" with grassy yards that doesn't happen often enough to keep the nails under control, so we trim and file as needed----some more than others."<br />
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Whether a setter lives in town or country, it needs adequate exercise. If an urban owner cant give a dog adequate exercise, then I would ask them to think about whether they should own setters<br />
Personally I rarely sell a…
"As for the nail trimming I would agree with her if the dog is worked regularly over a fairly rough terrain, but for "us city dwellers" with grassy yards that doesn't happen often enough to keep the nails under control, so we trim and file as needed----some more than others."<br />
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Whether a setter lives in town or country, it needs adequate exercise. If an urban owner cant give a dog adequate exercise, then I would ask them to think about whether they should own setters<br />
Personally I rarely sell a puppy to anybody living in an urban environment, unless they can convince me that they have somewhere where their dog can run freely and safely off lead EVERY day.<br />
One of mine lives in very urban Milan,but close to a large park and her owner spends his weekends walking and climbing in the hills of Northern Italy, thats OK with me, and I bet he doesnt have to trim her nails! I rarely trimmed my setters n…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2010-10-11:865021:Comment:3987082010-10-11T08:22:16.763ZAndrea Maxwellhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/AndreaMaxwell
I rarely trimmed my setters nails until Spartan hit the age where he did less... about 8. Weimaraner nails, in comparison, require constant attention!!<br />
IMO i hate seeing flat, wide feet. I don't own the breed nor consider myself an expert but i do like to see a nice clean foot on any setter...
I rarely trimmed my setters nails until Spartan hit the age where he did less... about 8. Weimaraner nails, in comparison, require constant attention!!<br />
IMO i hate seeing flat, wide feet. I don't own the breed nor consider myself an expert but i do like to see a nice clean foot on any setter...