Unusual Behaviour problem as new puppy comes to live with grieving dog -help needed please - Exclusively Setters2024-03-28T12:56:40Zhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/unusual-behaviour-problem-as?commentId=865021%3AComment%3A437496&feed=yes&xn_auth=noOh what a relief, I'm thrille…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-02-06:865021:Comment:4787312011-02-06T22:38:47.168ZDawn Riddellhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/DawnRiddell
<p>Oh what a relief, I'm thrilled to hear that things are now so good. Seb is clearly a very sensitive soul. I'm glad he has accepted the puppy as the friend he is meant to be.</p>
<p>What did you decide to call the puppy? I saw your recent photographs, and he looks gorgeous, just my type.</p>
<p>Regards, Dawn R.</p>
<p>Oh what a relief, I'm thrilled to hear that things are now so good. Seb is clearly a very sensitive soul. I'm glad he has accepted the puppy as the friend he is meant to be.</p>
<p>What did you decide to call the puppy? I saw your recent photographs, and he looks gorgeous, just my type.</p>
<p>Regards, Dawn R.</p> Many thanks for asking I will…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-02-06:865021:Comment:4783432011-02-06T19:28:52.796Zjulie madinhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/juliemadin
<p>Many thanks for asking I will post a picture to show them now but this is the story....</p>
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<p>Sebastian continued to be withdrawn but after a while started to venture into the garden again but with very little enthusiasm. He had no interest in venturing downstairs in a morning despite not even having gone out for a last we. He wouldnt eat his normal food and we tried lots to tempt him. We took him to the vets to make sure all was okay and following blood and urine tests and…</p>
<p>Many thanks for asking I will post a picture to show them now but this is the story....</p>
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<p>Sebastian continued to be withdrawn but after a while started to venture into the garden again but with very little enthusiasm. He had no interest in venturing downstairs in a morning despite not even having gone out for a last we. He wouldnt eat his normal food and we tried lots to tempt him. We took him to the vets to make sure all was okay and following blood and urine tests and examination was assured he was fine. He went onto a veterinary sensitive canned food and he would eat this JUST. So we tried to follow all the lovely advice given on this site and we started each day with a walk just for Seb and took pup out later. We put in place a dab diffuser and gave him zylkene anti stress tabs for dogs. We made sure we took time out each day to groom him and to play with him and introduced him to half an hour of Bulls Pizzles each night (I found these with great thanks to sue britton). He began to pick up puppy's toys and seemed to enjoy parading them in front of him whilst grumbling loudly but he had always been so placid. We darent leave them for a minute. Then..... 4 weeks to the day of puppys arrival he got up in the morning and came straight downstairs (where puppy is in his crate) he somehow seemed alot brighter in his eyes but still ignored puppy. I took Seb for his usual walk and then came back to give puppy his turn. Normally Seb would have gone onto the sofa at this point and sulked but this time he didnt. He wanted to come back out with us. I didnt take him but went out onto the adjacent back field just me and puppy but left the back door open so Seb could come and go as he pleased into the back garden. Seb howled from the back garden the whole time we were out. I knew something had changed. When we came back he sniffed at puppy and that was that. Things have just got better and they play and lay together now. Seb is back to eating his normal diet and seems much brighter in himself. They maintain separate sleeping arrangements and Seb still gets his morning walk alone. Now they run around the house like mad dogs sometimes Seb with puppys neck in his mouth and vice versa till someone yelps! (puppy still has first teeth). We now have the task of training puppy as this seemed to go on the back burner but at last we can look forward to the future now, I was so worried I didnt think we could keep the puppy but weve just booked our first holiday together in Cornwall for June lets hope it doesnt rain. Many thanks to everyone I dont think we would have got through this without you. Julie & Seb x</p> I'm very glad to hear that th…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-01-13:865021:Comment:4618742011-01-13T08:40:00.184ZDawn Riddellhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/DawnRiddell
<p>I'm very glad to hear that things are beginning to look up a little.</p>
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<p>You and Seb have had a very tough time recently and it must be exhausting to have all this going on. My thoughts are with you and I hope that now improvements have begun, it won't be long before happiness returns to your household. Big hugs to Seb and Puppy.</p>
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<p>Best wishes, Dawn and (nephew) Rory.</p>
<p>I'm very glad to hear that things are beginning to look up a little.</p>
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<p>You and Seb have had a very tough time recently and it must be exhausting to have all this going on. My thoughts are with you and I hope that now improvements have begun, it won't be long before happiness returns to your household. Big hugs to Seb and Puppy.</p>
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<p>Best wishes, Dawn and (nephew) Rory.</p> Hi Julie
Pleased to hear that…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-01-12:865021:Comment:4445782011-01-12T20:42:26.472ZSusan Stonehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SwissSusan
<p>Hi Julie</p>
<p>Pleased to hear that Seb seems to be a bit more relaxed. And I agree it is best to get him checked that there is no underlying health problem that is causing his depression.</p>
<p>He may just be one of those dogs that dislike puppies and who will be perfectly happy once Puppy is around 6 months old. Being able to take both out for walks will certainly help.</p>
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<p>As to my leaving Doncaster: Actually, I had no choice... my father was offered a job for two years…</p>
<p>Hi Julie</p>
<p>Pleased to hear that Seb seems to be a bit more relaxed. And I agree it is best to get him checked that there is no underlying health problem that is causing his depression.</p>
<p>He may just be one of those dogs that dislike puppies and who will be perfectly happy once Puppy is around 6 months old. Being able to take both out for walks will certainly help.</p>
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<p>As to my leaving Doncaster: Actually, I had no choice... my father was offered a job for two years & that was in '69 - the family never returned. Nobody asked for my opinion;o)</p>
<p>Still, I'm not complaining;-)</p>
<p>First setter joined us in '75.</p> Ive just realised you origina…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-01-12:865021:Comment:4445672011-01-12T20:12:31.063Zjulie madinhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/juliemadin
Ive just realised you originate from Doncaster Uk which is not too far away from Chesterfield, Derbyshire (just below Sheffield) where I live. How did you come to move to Switzerland? Did you have setters whilst you were here also?
Ive just realised you originate from Doncaster Uk which is not too far away from Chesterfield, Derbyshire (just below Sheffield) where I live. How did you come to move to Switzerland? Did you have setters whilst you were here also? Hi, not got back to you befor…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-01-12:865021:Comment:4443322011-01-12T12:20:16.725Zjulie madinhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/juliemadin
<p>Hi, not got back to you before because things seem to change daily with Seb and I was waiting to see. Basically yes things arent as bad, Seb will now go out into the garden but still not very enthusiastically he needs alot of coaxing. He still avoids puppy some days to a great extend then others he might let him lay near and I have seen them drink out of the same water bowl together (until he realises that is). He grumbes at him alot but then as you can imagine puppy is so excitable, thinks…</p>
<p>Hi, not got back to you before because things seem to change daily with Seb and I was waiting to see. Basically yes things arent as bad, Seb will now go out into the garden but still not very enthusiastically he needs alot of coaxing. He still avoids puppy some days to a great extend then others he might let him lay near and I have seen them drink out of the same water bowl together (until he realises that is). He grumbes at him alot but then as you can imagine puppy is so excitable, thinks hes great and jumps at his face alot. But I have noticed he looks for him and gave him a quick sniff the other day when puppy had been to the vets for his injection. Puppy will be able to go out from this next weekend so im hoping they will enjoy that. well see..........</p>
<p> But Seb is sill unhappy most of the time hardly ever wags his tail when we speak to him etc. You can see his sparkle is missing even when we go for a walk (which is still without puppy ) but he seems quite fit and still has the stamina for a good walk. He also isnt interested in his food. We are supplementing with tasty tuna, pilchards etc but he would take it or leave it. He has been that way since Rudy died. He is sleeping on our bed and seems to need both my husband and I in the house together before he can settle. I have bought him a dab infuser and some zyclene tabs but 5 days on i wouldnt say it has made much difference. I have spoken to the vet and am taking a water sample in tomorrow to have a bacteria check done. What I havent metioned is that Seb has had tonsilitis, and then a urine infection (bleeding from tail) which didnt resolve with the first antibiotics so hes just finished another 14 day course all this since 24 Nov (the day rudy died). The vet knows I am worried it could be prostrate trouble which is what Rudy started with but says I couldnt be that unlucky! Ive asked for a scan but he thinks im worrying unecessarily because the bleeding stops almost immediately the antibiotics are given but then last time it came back again. He wants to run the urine test first. But really thanks for your interest I will let you know further developments.</p> Hi Julie
I'm curious as to ho…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-01-08:865021:Comment:4412052011-01-08T08:54:23.671ZSusan Stonehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SwissSusan
<p>Hi Julie</p>
<p>I'm curious as to how things are working out for you. Has the situation calmed down? I do hope so!</p>
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<p>Hi Julie</p>
<p>I'm curious as to how things are working out for you. Has the situation calmed down? I do hope so!</p>
<p> </p> Hi, the puppy was injected wi…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-01-03:865021:Comment:4380212011-01-03T13:20:31.617Zjulie madinhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/juliemadin
Hi, the puppy was injected with 1.1 ml Voren Suspension on 27/12/10. His vaccines were Nobivac DHPPI and LEPTO2. given twice 7/12/10 and 21/12/10. My vet thought the vaccines would still cover him but contacted the pharma company for assurance. They advised that I need to wait 2 weeks from 27/12 and then repeat his second injection. Then I guess a further wait (10 days?)before he can go out. My vet thinks its overkill but that the pharma company are acting on the cautious side and that its up…
Hi, the puppy was injected with 1.1 ml Voren Suspension on 27/12/10. His vaccines were Nobivac DHPPI and LEPTO2. given twice 7/12/10 and 21/12/10. My vet thought the vaccines would still cover him but contacted the pharma company for assurance. They advised that I need to wait 2 weeks from 27/12 and then repeat his second injection. Then I guess a further wait (10 days?)before he can go out. My vet thinks its overkill but that the pharma company are acting on the cautious side and that its up to me what I do. Will the second injection be completely void even though it was day 6 following it? Not sure why the vet went for steroid perhaps 'cos it was a bank holiday and she didnt want to be called out again if the antihistamine hadnt worked. The field is a barley- plants about 4 inch high but the ground was frozen and covered in snow. puppy didnt cross the field we walked around the outside on the grass path but I guess pesticide blow everywhere. seb goes on that walk every morning and isnt affected at all. Steroids will affect the body…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-01-03:865021:Comment:4379272011-01-03T11:09:00.905ZSusan Stonehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SwissSusan
<p>Steroids will affect the body's immunity build-up, this means the vaccine can not take effect due to the body not being able to give the right response.</p>
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<p>There is one way you could find out: have the puppy's titres checked for parvovirus. It is possible that the previous vaccines had enough effect and the pupy already has a high immunity. Then there would be no need to re-vaccine either.</p>
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<p>I do not know if there are any passive vaccines available against…</p>
<p>Steroids will affect the body's immunity build-up, this means the vaccine can not take effect due to the body not being able to give the right response.</p>
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<p>There is one way you could find out: have the puppy's titres checked for parvovirus. It is possible that the previous vaccines had enough effect and the pupy already has a high immunity. Then there would be no need to re-vaccine either.</p>
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<p>I do not know if there are any passive vaccines available against parvo for puppies? That would mean an immune-suppressed individual (which is the case when on steroids) could still be protected.</p>
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<p>These questions need to be answered by a vet.</p>
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<p> </p> I have heard about sweetcorn…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-01-03:865021:Comment:4379082011-01-03T10:51:39.245ZOssianhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Ossian
<p>I have heard about sweetcorn and also old shale workings which have an oily deposit that some dogs react to.</p>
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<p>I always have Piriton anti histamine in my tool kit and I would start to feed a slice of raw black pudding to the tender footed dog every couple of days in its diet,. Its an old greyhound trick for toughening up feet. Needs to be the food black pudding made with blood!</p>
<p>I have heard about sweetcorn and also old shale workings which have an oily deposit that some dogs react to.</p>
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<p>I always have Piriton anti histamine in my tool kit and I would start to feed a slice of raw black pudding to the tender footed dog every couple of days in its diet,. Its an old greyhound trick for toughening up feet. Needs to be the food black pudding made with blood!</p>