Comments - Everyone concerned about missing dogs might like to have a look at this? - Exclusively Setters2024-03-29T11:42:13Zhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=865021%3ABlogPost%3A1043583&xn_auth=noNardi, seeing that you specif…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-02-03:865021:Comment:10449232013-02-03T00:40:00.292ZFinding_Beauhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/HammerBeau
<p>Nardi, seeing that you specifically directed your comment to me, I will respond but before I talk about this specific forum topic, I refer to a comment I recently made that many ES members do not properly read the forum topic nor the comments made by other ES members. <em>If you read Fran’s link, this refers specifically to stolen dogs.</em> The link states: <em>A microchip is useless to a <strong>stolen dog</strong> unless Vets Get Scanning!</em> I make the same statement on the Legal…</p>
<p>Nardi, seeing that you specifically directed your comment to me, I will respond but before I talk about this specific forum topic, I refer to a comment I recently made that many ES members do not properly read the forum topic nor the comments made by other ES members. <em>If you read Fran’s link, this refers specifically to stolen dogs.</em> The link states: <em>A microchip is useless to a <strong>stolen dog</strong> unless Vets Get Scanning!</em> I make the same statement on the Legal Status of a Dog web page of my website <a href="http://www.findingbeau.com/legal_status.htm">www.findingbeau.com/legal_status.htm</a>. There are other relevant statements on Fran’s link which I will not repeat because the words are there for everyone to read themselves.</p>
<p><em>My comment above refers specifically to stolen dogs and other stolen companion animals.</em> FYI a “missing” dog has a different legal status from a stolen dog.</p>
<p><em>You state: I don’t know what vets you have been to.</em> If you read my comment above I state that I had contacted every vet practice in Australia. In 2003 these practices approximated 2,500. This took me many months to complete at considerable cost. (I borrowed the money to fund my search for Beau). I could not email the vet practices because the majority of email addresses were not made publicly available. I did not write to every vet practice in Australia once, I wrote to every vet practice in every State of Australia at least 3 times; SE Queensland vets more than 12 times; the Queensland and NSW vets about 6 times; etc. I also wrote to other vet, govt, animal welfare organizations .. too many to list here.</p>
<p><em>In your comment, you refer to 6 vet practices and lost dogs.</em> My comment refers to thousands of vet practices and stolen dogs. <em>Your experience is also completely different from mine.</em></p>
<p><em>You are incorrect in stating there is a “central telephone number” to check microchips.</em> There are numerous microchip databases in Australia with numerous contact numbers. This has been a cause of concern for more than 15 years. Microchipping was made compulsory in the state of NSW in 1998. There continue to be major flaws with the microchipping system in NSW and other States of Australia.</p>
<p>As I have stated above, to this day there is no legal requirement in Australia for any vet to scan a stolen dog (or cat etc.) for a microchip. This behaviour contradicts criminal legislation in Australia because it is a crime to steal a dog or any companion animal. To this day there is no legal requirement for any vet to scan a dog (all companion animals) to verify legal ownership before they treat the dog. Obviously there is also no legal requirement for a vet to scan a lost dog brought into the surgery.</p>
<p>The reason stolen dogs are rarely seen again is because the only time these dogs are scanned is if they happen to get away from the criminals who stole them and they are then taken to a vet practice or an animal organisation to be scanned for a microchip. <em>This is a national disgrace.</em></p>
<p>Dog stealing has been a major problem in the UK and Australia for a very long time, i.e. more than 15 years.</p>
<p>When my book is published I will be able to reveal a lot more information than is shown on my website for my stolen English Setter, Beau. This information is based on legal fact and is not fabricated.</p> Same here in NZ, Nardi! All…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-02-02:865021:Comment:10446102013-02-02T00:03:00.627ZPat Aldridgehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/PatAldridge
<p>Same here in NZ, Nardi! All the vets will scan a "found" dog or cat with no problem. It's been common in NZsince microchipping was brought in.</p>
<p>Same here in NZ, Nardi! All the vets will scan a "found" dog or cat with no problem. It's been common in NZsince microchipping was brought in.</p> It doesn't happen here in the…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-02-01:865021:Comment:10447832013-02-01T22:45:49.677ZFran Griffinhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/FranGriffin
<p>It doesn't happen here in the UK. Most vets don't scan.</p>
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<p>My vets have just invested in a halo scanner. There has also been a failure with some chips which people are unaware of. Everyone needs to check their dogs chips in case you have one of those which in the past year or so have failed. Our local vets are offering a free scanning service even for pets who are not their clients. DaisyMae possibly has one of the failed chips, as she went to a different vet who is using that…</p>
<p>It doesn't happen here in the UK. Most vets don't scan.</p>
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<p>My vets have just invested in a halo scanner. There has also been a failure with some chips which people are unaware of. Everyone needs to check their dogs chips in case you have one of those which in the past year or so have failed. Our local vets are offering a free scanning service even for pets who are not their clients. DaisyMae possibly has one of the failed chips, as she went to a different vet who is using that brand (I can't remember who that is unfortunately). I am going to get her scanned next week by our current vets.</p> Finding Beau I don't know wha…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-02-01:865021:Comment:10446982013-02-01T22:00:54.771ZNardi Rowehttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/NardiRowe
<p>Finding Beau I don't know what vets you have been to but all the vet surgeries I have had direct experience with (admittedly only 6) here in Sydney run the scanner over a dog that is brought in as lost if they do not have a collar with an ID name tag. It is usually one of the vet nurses who do this while the person who has brought the dog in is still at the surgery. If there is a microchip, they ring a central telephone number for the owners details and then contact them that there dog is…</p>
<p>Finding Beau I don't know what vets you have been to but all the vet surgeries I have had direct experience with (admittedly only 6) here in Sydney run the scanner over a dog that is brought in as lost if they do not have a collar with an ID name tag. It is usually one of the vet nurses who do this while the person who has brought the dog in is still at the surgery. If there is a microchip, they ring a central telephone number for the owners details and then contact them that there dog is there. People finding the dog go off happy the dog will be collected from the vets by their owner.</p> Great everyone. Let's make t…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-01-31:865021:Comment:10442122013-01-31T15:53:30.310ZFran Griffinhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/FranGriffin
<p>Great everyone. Let's make this happen and make it as difficult as we can for those who wish to steal dogs and then trade them on.</p>
<p>Great everyone. Let's make this happen and make it as difficult as we can for those who wish to steal dogs and then trade them on.</p> Have spread the word on Faceb…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-01-31:865021:Comment:10444732013-01-31T14:33:24.817ZKC and the boyshttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Catherine_and_Errol
<p>Have spread the word on Facebook.</p>
<p>Have spread the word on Facebook.</p> Hi Mel, if you can spread thi…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-01-31:865021:Comment:10443952013-01-31T14:13:34.574ZFran Griffinhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/FranGriffin
<p>Hi Mel, if you can spread this information on the facebook forums that will be great. I know Sandy Waterton is doing a lot at the moment too. I wonder if it would be a good idea in Aus. to find some high profile dog loving celebrity to become involved to promote something similar? Even though Bruce Forsyth has put his name to this, I have been told it is his daughter who is the real force up behind it. I am sure a lot of vet practices will become involved, but likewise I am sure there will…</p>
<p>Hi Mel, if you can spread this information on the facebook forums that will be great. I know Sandy Waterton is doing a lot at the moment too. I wonder if it would be a good idea in Aus. to find some high profile dog loving celebrity to become involved to promote something similar? Even though Bruce Forsyth has put his name to this, I have been told it is his daughter who is the real force up behind it. I am sure a lot of vet practices will become involved, but likewise I am sure there will be those who wont give this a 2nd look. It might be a good idea for people to leave those practices who refuse to participate?</p> Thank you Fran...I've signed…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-01-31:865021:Comment:10443002013-01-31T09:20:44.247ZSue Patersonhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/SuePaters0n
<p>Thank you Fran...I've signed the petition and will speak to our vet when I next visit.</p>
<p>Thank you Fran...I've signed the petition and will speak to our vet when I next visit.</p> I have spent almost 10 years…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-01-31:865021:Comment:10441722013-01-31T00:58:07.164ZFinding_Beauhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/HammerBeau
<p>I have spent almost 10 years writing to Members of Parliament, the AWL, the RSPCA, every council dog pound, every Veterinary Surgeons Board in every State of Australia, every single vet practice in Australia .. the list goes on and on and on .. and the majority i.e. 90% did not care about stolen companion animals even though this is a major problem in every country in the world. To this day there is no requirement for any vet in Australia to scan a dog for a microchip even when they have…</p>
<p>I have spent almost 10 years writing to Members of Parliament, the AWL, the RSPCA, every council dog pound, every Veterinary Surgeons Board in every State of Australia, every single vet practice in Australia .. the list goes on and on and on .. and the majority i.e. 90% did not care about stolen companion animals even though this is a major problem in every country in the world. To this day there is no requirement for any vet in Australia to scan a dog for a microchip even when they have been advised it is a Police matter and they have been given the Police Crime report number. State dog management legislation continues to be in contradiction with property and criminal legislation. I was advised by a journalist a couple of years ago that my English Setter, Beau would have received more media attention than any dog ever in Australia even though I knocked back a lot of media stories. I really wonder now if one person can make a difference but in saying this, I still believe each one of us should keep trying.</p>
<p>It is good to see that this has been recognised in the UK. I can never see this happening in Australia. </p> Yes Mel it would be a great i…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-01-30:865021:Comment:10438222013-01-30T19:45:12.717ZFran Griffinhttp://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/FranGriffin
<p>Yes Mel it would be a great idea if everyone can ask their vets to come on board with this. For anyone on Facebook, please look up Willow Veterinary Centres who are extremely proactive in this campaign. You don't have to be a client of Willow to join their facebook.</p>
<p>Yes Mel it would be a great idea if everyone can ask their vets to come on board with this. For anyone on Facebook, please look up Willow Veterinary Centres who are extremely proactive in this campaign. You don't have to be a client of Willow to join their facebook.</p>