Exclusively Setters2024-03-28T11:45:15ZTeresa Joneshttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/TERESAJONEShttps://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1950784999?profile=RESIZE_48X48&width=48&height=48&crop=1%3A1https://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?groupUrl=raw-feeding&user=1lznhb1byrmmo&feed=yes&xn_auth=noFussy eaters!tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2015-03-01:865021:Topic:11510372015-03-01T04:52:39.620ZTeresa Joneshttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/TERESAJONES
Hello everyone,<br />
I just switched Dash over to raw as he's developed allergies and I'm hoping this helps him with that, and also with all the other benefits RAW food brings.<br />
Only thing is, I was cutting up some beef heart in to his portions yesterday and offered him a small piece. He looked at it, licked it then left it! Same with the ox kidney I got for a bit later on when he's settled in to it and can start introducing offal.<br />
Did anyone else have some reluctant kids when first starting out? Did…
Hello everyone,<br />
I just switched Dash over to raw as he's developed allergies and I'm hoping this helps him with that, and also with all the other benefits RAW food brings.<br />
Only thing is, I was cutting up some beef heart in to his portions yesterday and offered him a small piece. He looked at it, licked it then left it! Same with the ox kidney I got for a bit later on when he's settled in to it and can start introducing offal.<br />
Did anyone else have some reluctant kids when first starting out? Did they come round to certain foods after a while or are some just a no no? He loves his beef mince but I was trying to find alternatives as that works out pretty expensive to get and the beef hearts are huge and one can give him two meals whereas a packet of mince only lasts one.<br />
He's got chicken frames and chicken necks for his RMB. I also found some lamb off cut bones and stuff. I just need ideas for his meat! Does anyone just feed one type of meat all the time (not including RMB) and not vary it at all?<br />
The mince however is handy because the consistency means I can easily hide his carrot and broccoli pulp in it lol.<br />
Side note: does anybody else absolutely love preparing these meals?! I love that I know exactly what he's having. Thank you for all the info here :)<br />
Love, Becky and Dash xx Raw feeding 10 days ontag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-04-25:865021:Topic:10958022013-04-25T06:36:36.156ZTeresa Joneshttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/TERESAJONES
<p>Hi guy`s, it has been 10 days now since I interduced raw to Sofie. The picky one who I have to call 5-6 times to get her food, then often have to collect her and often feed her by hand. Well I am amazed how well she has taken to it, loves it and looks forward to her next meal there before I am ready.</p>
<p>One problem though, the other 2 also want her food, so looks like I shall be changing them all over ! Contacted 2 local butchers yesterday and looks like I have found a butcher who can…</p>
<p>Hi guy`s, it has been 10 days now since I interduced raw to Sofie. The picky one who I have to call 5-6 times to get her food, then often have to collect her and often feed her by hand. Well I am amazed how well she has taken to it, loves it and looks forward to her next meal there before I am ready.</p>
<p>One problem though, the other 2 also want her food, so looks like I shall be changing them all over ! Contacted 2 local butchers yesterday and looks like I have found a butcher who can meet my requirments with human grade food and the balance I require, lovely man who understood exactly what I want. Watch this space and thank you all so much for your help <:0)</p> How muchtag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-04-11:865021:Topic:10938072013-04-11T17:38:33.025ZTeresa Joneshttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/TERESAJONES
<p>Sofie who will be 6 next month loves raw, she is the fussy eater out of my three, I want to put her on raw but I have no idea how much she should have, or if I should then give her supplements as she does not like veggy`s. I donn`t want her to put on weight as she is just right. She is a 10 mile a day dog. Thanks</p>
<p>Sofie who will be 6 next month loves raw, she is the fussy eater out of my three, I want to put her on raw but I have no idea how much she should have, or if I should then give her supplements as she does not like veggy`s. I donn`t want her to put on weight as she is just right. She is a 10 mile a day dog. Thanks</p> An interesting take on foodtag:irishsetters.ning.com,2013-04-01:865021:Topic:10908332013-04-01T14:45:23.121ZTeresa Joneshttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/TERESAJONES
<p>My personal view is she could have gone further, but still an interesting take on reasons for raw feeding.…</p>
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<p>My personal view is she could have gone further, but still an interesting take on reasons for raw feeding.</p>
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<p><a href="http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2013/04/01/raw-food-diet-part-1.aspx?e_cid=20130401_PetsNL_art_1&utm_source=petnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20130401" target="_blank">http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2013/04/01/raw-food-diet-part-1.aspx?e_cid=20130401_PetsNL_art_1&utm_source=petnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20130401</a></p> Mixing Raw Food with Kibbletag:irishsetters.ning.com,2012-02-10:865021:Topic:8914972012-02-10T17:35:23.541ZTeresa Joneshttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/TERESAJONES
<p>Interesting article</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.b-naturals.com/newsletter/mixing-fresh-food-with-kibble/">http://www.b-naturals.com/newsletter/mixing-fresh-food-with-kibble/</a> </p>
<p>Interesting article</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.b-naturals.com/newsletter/mixing-fresh-food-with-kibble/">http://www.b-naturals.com/newsletter/mixing-fresh-food-with-kibble/</a> </p> How much do you pay monthly to feed raw?tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2012-01-27:865021:Topic:8832582012-01-27T13:32:29.982ZTeresa Joneshttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/TERESAJONES
<p>I was just wondering how much you all pay per month to feed your dogs raw - whether DIY or pre-made?</p>
<p>I was just wondering how much you all pay per month to feed your dogs raw - whether DIY or pre-made?</p> Tripe - The Magical Mystery Meat Every Dog Lovestag:irishsetters.ning.com,2012-01-26:865021:Topic:8831312012-01-26T21:09:46.746ZTeresa Joneshttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/TERESAJONES
<h2><strong><span class="font-size-3">What is Tripe?</span></strong></h2>
<p>Tripe is the stomach of a ruminating (grazing) animal including cows and sheep. The unique stomachs of ruminants have four chambers which systematically break down grasses with a slew of digestive enzymes, gastric juices and amino acids.</p>
<p>You may have seen tripe on the grocery store shelves in a white and bleached form. This is not what you want to feed your dog: it is devoid of any real value. What you want to…</p>
<h2><strong><span class="font-size-3">What is Tripe?</span></strong></h2>
<p>Tripe is the stomach of a ruminating (grazing) animal including cows and sheep. The unique stomachs of ruminants have four chambers which systematically break down grasses with a slew of digestive enzymes, gastric juices and amino acids.</p>
<p>You may have seen tripe on the grocery store shelves in a white and bleached form. This is not what you want to feed your dog: it is devoid of any real value. What you want to feed is ‘green tripe’, the stuff that comes right out of the animal, dripping with all of those wonderful juices.</p>
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<h2><span class="font-size-3"><strong>Why does it have to be green?</strong></span></h2>
<p>The same digestive enzymes and beneficial bacteria that help the ruminant animal digest foodstuff will do the same for your dog. Think how much money you can spend on digestive enzymes and probiotics in a bottle and those same wonderful, natural substances are in abundance in green tripe.</p>
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<p>Digestive enzymes aid in digestion, meaning the body does not have to expend as much energy when digesting a meal. This means your dog gets the most nutritional benefit from his meals. Digestive enzymes also do much more than aid in digestion: they purify and cleanse the blood and remove toxins, parasites and fungus. They also improve metabolism, hormonal function and boost the immune system.</p>
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<p>Cooking destroys digestive enzymes, so it is important that your dog’s tripe is not only green, but raw. If your dog eats a cooked or commercial diet, then he may be suffering from enzyme deficiency. The signs of this can include anxiety, lack of energy, chronic diarrhea and digestive problems, gingivitis, viral and bacterial infections and yeast overgrowth. If your dog suffers from any of these disorders, consider the value of adding green tripe to his diet or increasing the amount you currently feed.</p>
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<p>The gut is populated by hundreds of different kinds of bacteria or microflora which are divided into the ‘good guys’ and the ‘bad guys’. The ‘bad’ bacteria are those responsible for health complaints and some of their members include e- coli, salmonella, campylobacter and listeria. These are the bacteria contained in foods and the environment that could potentially make your dog sick: if it weren’t for the protection of the ‘good’ bacteria.</p>
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<p>The good bacteria improve immune function simply by out- numbering the bad bacteria and maintaining a healthy microflora in the gut. Green tripe is loaded with Lactobacillus Acidophilus, one of the bacterial ‘good guys’. Your dog’s gut can only feed so many micro-organisms, so the more ‘good’ bacteria he consumes, the less ‘bad’ bacteria will find anything to eat in his gut and they will get crowded out.</p>
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<p>Many health issues are caused by imbalance in the microflora. Older dogs are especially prone to this as they tend to have lower levels of beneficial bacteria in their guts. Supplementing your dog’s diet with lots of raw, green tripe will help him maintain a healthy balance of microflora, manufacture more B vitamins, and prevent many health disorders.</p>
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<h2><span class="font-size-3"><strong>Benefits of Tripe</strong></span></h2>
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<li> Treats diarrhea and GI infections</li>
<li> Aids digestion</li>
<li> Treats chronic constipation</li>
<li> Treats symptoms of Irritable Bowel Syndrome</li>
<li> Enhances the immune system</li>
<li> Lowers the risk of pollen allergies</li>
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<p>If your dog already suffers from health issues, consider adding raw, green tripe to his diet. Acidophilus can be used to treat a myriad of health complaints.</p>
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<p>Please be aware that tripe really does stink! especially the fresh kind but dogs cannot resist the smell. </p>
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<p><a href="http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/the-stink-on-tripe/">http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/the-stink-on-tripe/</a></p> Places to buy raw food UK & Irelandtag:irishsetters.ning.com,2012-01-26:865021:Topic:8829422012-01-26T20:53:33.565ZTeresa Joneshttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/TERESAJONES
<p>For those of us who don't like doing all the prep work with the raw food you can buy from places like these below. I get Rosco's tubs of lamb, lamb necks, rib and spines from Natural Instinct. I buy all my bulk items like the lamb chunks, mince etc from a supplier in Northern Ireland. </p>
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<p><a href="http://prizechoice.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://prizechoice.co.uk/…</a></p>
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<p>For those of us who don't like doing all the prep work with the raw food you can buy from places like these below. I get Rosco's tubs of lamb, lamb necks, rib and spines from Natural Instinct. I buy all my bulk items like the lamb chunks, mince etc from a supplier in Northern Ireland. </p>
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<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://prizechoice.co.uk/">http://prizechoice.co.uk/</a></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.naturalinstinct.com/">http://www.naturalinstinct.com/</a> (expensive)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.landywoods.co.uk/">http://www.landywoods.co.uk/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://honeysrealdogfood.com/questions.php">http://honeysrealdogfood.com/questions.php</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.albionmeatproducts.co.uk/">http://www.albionmeatproducts.co.uk/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.wolftucker.co.uk/adult/">http://www.wolftucker.co.uk/adult/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.foodforpets.ie/">http://www.foodforpets.ie/</a></p> Raw Meal Plans - Finding A Balancetag:irishsetters.ning.com,2012-01-26:865021:Topic:8827562012-01-26T16:28:37.077ZTeresa Joneshttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/TERESAJONES
<p>This is based on what our dogs would get...average weight 25kg-30kg roughly 2.2lb per day based on activity level high.</p>
<p><span>The menu is designed to attain and maintain nutritional balance over a one week period. Balance is achieved by including a variety of muscle meats, organs, fats and bones. This philosophy is based on the principles of the whole prey model (we do not feed veg). The plan can be strictly adhered to, or you may find your pet responds better to nutritional…</span></p>
<p>This is based on what our dogs would get...average weight 25kg-30kg roughly 2.2lb per day based on activity level high.</p>
<p><span>The menu is designed to attain and maintain nutritional balance over a one week period. Balance is achieved by including a variety of muscle meats, organs, fats and bones. This philosophy is based on the principles of the whole prey model (we do not feed veg). The plan can be strictly adhered to, or you may find your pet responds better to nutritional modifications (e.g., more chicken, less lamb). Vegetable puree is optional in a natural raw diet. Some dogs seem to love plant matter while others refuse to consume it. We prefer to give chunks of meats more than minces as they get the dogs jaws working but we do add minces to the diet.</span></p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Monday</strong></span></p>
<p>Morning <strong>-</strong> 1lb of beef shoulder</p>
<p>Evening - 1 x lambs heart and 1/2lb of minced beef and bone with 1 egg</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Tuesday</strong></span></p>
<p>Morning - 1lb of Minced Green Tripe & Salmon Oil</p>
<p>Evening - Turkey Back</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Wednesday</strong></span></p>
<p>Morning - 1lb of beef chunks</p>
<p>Evening - 1lb of minced beef and bone</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Thursday</strong></span></p>
<p>Morning - 1lb Salmon Strips with Salmon Oil</p>
<p>Evening - 2 x Chicken Thighs </p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Friday</strong></span></p>
<p>Morning - Minced Turkey & Tripe</p>
<p>Evening - Lamb Neck or Ribs</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Saturday</strong></span></p>
<p>Morning - 1lb Beef & Lamb</p>
<p>Evening - Whole Sardines & Egg</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Sunday</strong></span></p>
<p>Morning - lb Chicken & Liver</p>
<p>Evening - 1lb Beef Mince and Bone</p>
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<p><span>I feed 80% meat 10% bone 10% organ half of that being liver, an egg every few days, and add some fish oil. If the poo is too white and crumbly I will reduce the bone content.</span></p> What about things like salmonella?tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2012-01-26:865021:Topic:8830662012-01-26T15:51:45.050ZTeresa Joneshttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/TERESAJONES
<p><span><b>Salmonella Poisoning in Dogs</b></span></p>
<p><span><br></br><span>Dogs seem to be able to scarf down anything and everything that is under their nose, but can they get salmonella poisoning? We hear about people all the time eating chicken that wasn’t cooked enough and then getting sick for several days after because of salmonella poisoning, but can that happen to dogs too? Can salmonella poisoning occur in dogs?</span><br></br><br></br><span>Dogs can shed salmonella through their feces even…</span></span></p>
<p><span><b>Salmonella Poisoning in Dogs</b></span></p>
<p><span><br/><span>Dogs seem to be able to scarf down anything and everything that is under their nose, but can they get salmonella poisoning? We hear about people all the time eating chicken that wasn’t cooked enough and then getting sick for several days after because of salmonella poisoning, but can that happen to dogs too? Can salmonella poisoning occur in dogs?</span><br/><br/><span>Dogs can shed salmonella through their feces even when they eat dry kibble, but because a healthy dog normally can digest their food quickly without allowing bacteria to settle, they usually do not get salmonella poisoning. Since normal, healthy dogs without other serious health concerns are able to do this, typically they do not get salmonella poisoning from raw meats, like humans can.</span><br/><br/><span>However, if a healthy dog eats something that has spoiled then there may be a problem. Just like humans, eating something that has been left out for a long period of time, or has spoiled, can poison dogs. Even the healthiest dogs can get poisoned in these types of conditions.</span><br/><br/><span>Canine stomachs have a much higher acidity than humans. Also, their intestinal tract is much shorter, and can pass Samonella before it takes effect. Those two things combined decrease the odds of dogs contracting many bacterial infections. If the acidity doesn't kill it, they pass it through too quickly for much to take hold.</span><br/><br/><span>Raw chicken for dogs is no more dangerous than raw food for humans. Some people eat sushi, and their beef rare. It's all in how you handle your dog's food. Same as humans...freeze if not using immediately, defrost under refrigeration, use proper sanitary technique for serving (I sanitize cutting boards and surfaces before and after contact with raw food, bowls get put in dishwasher after each meal, never prepare raw dog meal while family food is out on counter...)</span></span></p>
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<p><span><span>Understanding salmonella and how humans contract the disease are critical in preventing the bacteria from infecting pet owners or their dogs. Feeding raw food to dogs presents less danger from salmonella than from eating food with the bacteria. <span>The digestive systems of healthy dogs produce bacteria-destroying enzymes, in the same way wolves digest raw meat. Dogs are able to digest raw food more rapidly than dry kibble, making the chances of becoming infected with salmonella less likely.</span><span><br/> <br/></span></span> <span><strong>Concerns with Raw Eggs</strong></span></span></p>
<p><span><span><span>Eggs are absolutely brilliant nutrition for your dog. Eggs are a whole food, and often regarded as being the perfect protein source. It is the one against which all other proteins are measured. Eggs contain a full compliment of minerals, including excellent levels of calcium (mostly in the yolk), all the vitamins except vitamin C and a range of high quality saturated and unsaturated fatty acids, the nutrient lecithin and the whole range of enzymes and other longevity factors always present in raw foods. The shell is removed in order to balance the calcium requirements in a natural diet. Egg yolks are an essential food for a dog with skin problems. They contain sulphur containing amino acids, biotin, vitamin A, essential fatty acids and zinc.</span></span></span></p>
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<p><strong>What about Biotin in Eggs</strong></p>
<p><span><span><span>Many clinical nutrition books discuss </span><b>biotin</b><span> (one of the water soluble vitamin B complex) as being an essential nutrient which can be bound by avidin, which is found in </span><b>raw egg white</b><span>. This binding prevents it's absorption from the gastrointestinal tract. Fortunately cooking deactivates this effect of avidin, and egg yolk is so high in biotin content that biotin deficiency does not occur when </span><b>whole raw eggs are fed</b><span>. So, whilst biotin deficiency is a potential problem - in reality it is unlikely to be seen in domesticated animals unless they are fed an extremely imbalanced ration that is predominantly egg white.</span></span></span></p>
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