diet - Exclusively Setters2024-03-29T04:38:44Zhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/865021:Topic:84193?commentId=865021%3AComment%3A104205&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI think everyone should feed…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-11-08:865021:Comment:1124492008-11-08T13:13:06.502ZCarmel Murphyhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Clannrua
I think everyone should feed their dogs on what suits the individual! If you want to give raw meat or cook up your own thats good too!<br />
Sometimes time and money are an issue. I think dry food is very good as long as you find the one that suits your dogs.I have gone through quite a few over the years and now am very happy with a particular dry food from Sweden!! This food doesnt swell up when wet and I dont need to soak it( I add a little water just before I give them the food) My dogs get a meat…
I think everyone should feed their dogs on what suits the individual! If you want to give raw meat or cook up your own thats good too!<br />
Sometimes time and money are an issue. I think dry food is very good as long as you find the one that suits your dogs.I have gone through quite a few over the years and now am very happy with a particular dry food from Sweden!! This food doesnt swell up when wet and I dont need to soak it( I add a little water just before I give them the food) My dogs get a meat meal in the mornings(a natural/holistic food with vegetables,rice and herbs from the UK) and the dry food in the evening. They also get bones to chew for healthy teeth and gums! I have skimmed through the in…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-11-08:865021:Comment:1124072008-11-08T11:04:02.614Zursula wilbyhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/mossby188
I have skimmed through the information given on this link and would just like to add a quick comment.<br />
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The adding of pets/died farmanimals (dying of sickness etc) was banned in Sweden after a huge uproar in the 80's.<br />
So that part no longer applies. This rule applies to IMPORTED dried dogfood as well as home-produced.<br />
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There is also a big section on the fact that the there is "poop" contained in the food. Coming from slaughtered animals. Of course nobody wants to have this as an additive, but…
I have skimmed through the information given on this link and would just like to add a quick comment.<br />
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The adding of pets/died farmanimals (dying of sickness etc) was banned in Sweden after a huge uproar in the 80's.<br />
So that part no longer applies. This rule applies to IMPORTED dried dogfood as well as home-produced.<br />
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There is also a big section on the fact that the there is "poop" contained in the food. Coming from slaughtered animals. Of course nobody wants to have this as an additive, but stop and consider...if one of our dogs would kill a rabbit...will it then go: <i>OHH my dear..there is poop in these intestines...blaa!!!! I certainly dont want to eat THAT!</i><br />
If we are going to be all natural...lets be honest.<br />
The dog would eat the whole rabbit.<br />
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Just as my dogs at times eat the whole mouse brought to them by my cats. Mouse-poop included. We also have another discussion going where lots of setterowners speak openly about their dogs eating poop. And not even poop with meat-matter surrounding it.<br />
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And no, I am still not against feeding dogs on a natural diet. But for me the dried dog-food works and I still feel that a <b>HEALTHY</b> animal will do well on a number of different diets. Having followed that discussi…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-11-08:865021:Comment:1124012008-11-08T10:34:54.859ZCatherine Carterhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/CatherineCarter
Having followed that discussion, I would like to include this link into the conversation...I received this last year from a breeder in Ireland.<a href="http://www.thedogfoodconspiracy.com/dog-food-secrets.php?hop=wanger">http://www.thedogfoodconspiracy.com/dog-food-secrets.php?hop=wanger</a>
Having followed that discussion, I would like to include this link into the conversation...I received this last year from a breeder in Ireland.<a href="http://www.thedogfoodconspiracy.com/dog-food-secrets.php?hop=wanger">http://www.thedogfoodconspiracy.com/dog-food-secrets.php?hop=wanger</a> Not wanting to be everybodys…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-11-08:865021:Comment:1123702008-11-08T07:36:43.336Zursula wilbyhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/mossby188
Not wanting to be everybodys darling is fine by me.<br />
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But what you are doing with these sweeping statements concerning how dogowners that give dried food to their dogs <b>behave</b> towards their dogs (based on <b>NO FACT</b> whatsoever) just makes me wonder about the rest.<br />
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Do you actually believe this sweeping statement yourself?<br />
Do you actually believe that feeding dried dog-food totally excludes feeding marrow-bones for instance?<br />
You have one dog getting bloat from bisquits (so you…
Not wanting to be everybodys darling is fine by me.<br />
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But what you are doing with these sweeping statements concerning how dogowners that give dried food to their dogs <b>behave</b> towards their dogs (based on <b>NO FACT</b> whatsoever) just makes me wonder about the rest.<br />
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Do you actually believe this sweeping statement yourself?<br />
Do you actually believe that feeding dried dog-food totally excludes feeding marrow-bones for instance?<br />
You have one dog getting bloat from bisquits (so you think).<br />
This to you, proves a point.<br />
I have fed dried dog-food for the last 35 years without bloat, and dont for one second think this proves that bloat can be prevented by feeding dried dog-food.<br />
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Also you try to put across the point of people feeding dry dog-food are doing this becourse they are too mean to do anything else. Let me assure you that I <b>do not</b> feed dried dog-food out of meanness!<br />
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Yes, <b>do</b> discuss manufactured dog-food compared to making your own, but please try to keep the discussion on a believable level. Ok Eva, I can buy the whole c…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-11-07:865021:Comment:1123142008-11-07T21:02:05.646Zursula wilbyhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/mossby188
Ok Eva, I can buy the whole concept.<br />
Even if I dont apply it.<br />
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But I find it <b>VERY</b> strange indeed that you will actually take a leap from owners giving dried dog-food to these owners dogs not being allowed to be dogs.<br />
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I can not see that introducing ideas definatly not based on any fact (dogs eating dried dog-food = not allowed to get muddy) helps putting your point across.<br />
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And yes you do have a valid point!<br />
We do ALL eat a lot of crap.<br />
But then life has changed, we dont all have the…
Ok Eva, I can buy the whole concept.<br />
Even if I dont apply it.<br />
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But I find it <b>VERY</b> strange indeed that you will actually take a leap from owners giving dried dog-food to these owners dogs not being allowed to be dogs.<br />
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I can not see that introducing ideas definatly not based on any fact (dogs eating dried dog-food = not allowed to get muddy) helps putting your point across.<br />
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And yes you do have a valid point!<br />
We do ALL eat a lot of crap.<br />
But then life has changed, we dont all have the time to cook dogfood or even our own food from scratch, and in fact where <b>is</b> scratch?<br />
Is it not breeding the chicken yourself?<br />
Is it not keeping your own lambs?<br />
Growing your own vegetables?<br />
Not until you are actually doing all that are you (almost) certain there will be no additives.<br />
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Ursula<br />
(Present Chicken/egg and former pig+lamb producer on a very small scale) In the 'olden days' when we w…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-10-22:865021:Comment:1066082008-10-22T19:13:18.601ZDee Rancehttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/DeeRance
In the 'olden days' when we were young Ursula, we were always told that we should eat at least a teaspoon-full of salt a day and full cream milk was the best thing to have, we cooked with butter and cream, and now.....all these things are bad for us. Times change......and so do our thoughts on food etc.<br />
There always seems to be an element of truth in these 'old wives tale's' BUT I think that this one is one of those that don't actually mean anything, and should be taken with a pinch of…
In the 'olden days' when we were young Ursula, we were always told that we should eat at least a teaspoon-full of salt a day and full cream milk was the best thing to have, we cooked with butter and cream, and now.....all these things are bad for us. Times change......and so do our thoughts on food etc.<br />
There always seems to be an element of truth in these 'old wives tale's' BUT I think that this one is one of those that don't actually mean anything, and should be taken with a pinch of salt...pardon the pun...a bit like the one that says that if a bitch has a miss mating with another breed then she should be destroyed because she will always produce an odd puppy or two in any other litters.<br />
Like you I always fed the dogs on raw meat, this included the Akita's and lets face it, they would be more likely to 'bite the hand that feeds them' they NEVER did, mind you they never would dare to. There was mutual respect between us. But I do think that some lines have more of a tendency to have a temperament problem. As far as your English is concerned Eve I should like to be able to speak ANY other language, you probably speak English better than most of us!!!!! I was also very interested re…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-10-22:865021:Comment:1064642008-10-22T14:45:24.406Zursula wilbyhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/mossby188
I was also very interested regarding the supposed connection food/temperament and asked about this...but so far, no reply.<br />
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I do feel that a lot of facts concerning food (both for animals and humans) will change over the years. I know I am showing my age here, but I remember clearly that when I was a child the saying was that you should <b>NEVER</b> feed a dog with raw meat!<br />
The reason?<br />
Well any dog once having tasted "real meat" could thereafter never be trusted again and was likley to attack…
I was also very interested regarding the supposed connection food/temperament and asked about this...but so far, no reply.<br />
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I do feel that a lot of facts concerning food (both for animals and humans) will change over the years. I know I am showing my age here, but I remember clearly that when I was a child the saying was that you should <b>NEVER</b> feed a dog with raw meat!<br />
The reason?<br />
Well any dog once having tasted "real meat" could thereafter never be trusted again and was likley to attack his owner.<br />
Seeing that my first dog (a poodle) ate mince at times and never bit me :-) I thought there was not all that much to it.<br />
And of course now a saying like that is just a total joke! I am interested in the commen…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-10-22:865021:Comment:1064552008-10-22T14:21:03.828ZKristinhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Kristin
I am interested in the comment on temperment being affected by food. My short haired pup is a rescue of unknown origins (most likely a back yard breeder, but I don't tell him that). :) When I first got him I asked on this site about coat health and care (there should be a string somewhere on this site). I have since fed him Nature's Variety Instinct and Prairie foods. He has a great temperment and great teeth and his coat has improved. I am not giving him supplements but I will put olive oil on…
I am interested in the comment on temperment being affected by food. My short haired pup is a rescue of unknown origins (most likely a back yard breeder, but I don't tell him that). :) When I first got him I asked on this site about coat health and care (there should be a string somewhere on this site). I have since fed him Nature's Variety Instinct and Prairie foods. He has a great temperment and great teeth and his coat has improved. I am not giving him supplements but I will put olive oil on his food. I imagine low quality foods of any type - raw or dried - could cause problems. So I just tried to find something of high quality that works for me and him. Maybe someday I will experiment with a raw diet to see if there is a difference. He always eats his food with gusto - he is very food motivated. Thanks for that Laura
He is s…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-10-22:865021:Comment:1064492008-10-22T13:29:50.689ZDee Rancehttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/DeeRance
Thanks for that Laura<br />
He is such a lovely specimen and a lovely boy, so easily trained, but he has very little hair, it is such a shame, any suggestions????
Thanks for that Laura<br />
He is such a lovely specimen and a lovely boy, so easily trained, but he has very little hair, it is such a shame, any suggestions???? just a short note: it is not…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2008-10-22:865021:Comment:1063752008-10-22T09:43:29.782ZLaura Kolbachhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/paintedblue
just a short note: it is not a vizsla thing. i live in the home of vizslas, and am 100% sure. i think your daughters are just unlucky to have an allergic one. :-(
just a short note: it is not a vizsla thing. i live in the home of vizslas, and am 100% sure. i think your daughters are just unlucky to have an allergic one. :-(