English Setters - Exclusively Setters2024-03-29T11:47:13Zhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/english-setters-1?commentId=865021%3AComment%3A846483&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSara, please don't only blame…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-12-03:865021:Comment:8565952011-12-03T21:46:22.866Zeva ciechonskahttps://irishsetters.ning.com/xn/detail/u_0gijg39gsgi1q
<p>Sara, please don't only blame the breeders. If you have read through many discussions you would have noted the same from some non-breeder contributors on this site. </p>
<p>Actually, looking at the wealth and manner of comments on all Forum discussions, it isn't the norm and since the exit of a couple of non-breeder members a few months ago this site has noticeably settled down. However it is good to have robust discussion on topics.....it shows members have passionate views and want to…</p>
<p>Sara, please don't only blame the breeders. If you have read through many discussions you would have noted the same from some non-breeder contributors on this site. </p>
<p>Actually, looking at the wealth and manner of comments on all Forum discussions, it isn't the norm and since the exit of a couple of non-breeder members a few months ago this site has noticeably settled down. However it is good to have robust discussion on topics.....it shows members have passionate views and want to share them.</p> Well written, Gene. Thank you…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-23:865021:Comment:8502552011-11-23T15:12:08.048ZCatherine Carterhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/CatherineCarter
<p>Well written, Gene. Thank you for posting the above...it was time you said it!</p>
<p>Well written, Gene. Thank you for posting the above...it was time you said it!</p> Hi Tracy - Questions for you.…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-23:865021:Comment:8500442011-11-23T12:19:32.777ZGenehttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/BeforeShot
<p>Hi Tracy - Questions for you. If someone called you a 'nobody', how would you feel about it? Do you think that is an acceptable level of decorum for an Internet forum like this? Look, I am all for discussion and debate as long as it civil but we are not going to put up with people you are rude and basically jerks to other members. I would hope that the majority of members on this site would agree with this.</p>
<p>Hi Tracy - Questions for you. If someone called you a 'nobody', how would you feel about it? Do you think that is an acceptable level of decorum for an Internet forum like this? Look, I am all for discussion and debate as long as it civil but we are not going to put up with people you are rude and basically jerks to other members. I would hope that the majority of members on this site would agree with this.</p> Glad to hear it sweetheart...…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-22:865021:Comment:8493612011-11-22T19:10:54.382Zeva ciechonskahttps://irishsetters.ning.com/xn/detail/u_0gijg39gsgi1q
<p>Glad to hear it sweetheart..........here's to many more good discussions!!!!!</p>
<p>Glad to hear it sweetheart..........here's to many more good discussions!!!!!</p> Pat - Best of luck to you. A…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-22:865021:Comment:8493512011-11-22T18:27:26.245ZGenehttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/BeforeShot
<p>Pat - Best of luck to you. Anyone who refers to a fellow member as a 'nobody' just because they don't breed is not welcome here.</p>
<p>Pat - Best of luck to you. Anyone who refers to a fellow member as a 'nobody' just because they don't breed is not welcome here.</p> I can only speak of my experi…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-22:865021:Comment:8494712011-11-22T18:19:00.151ZSheree Parrishhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/ShereeParrish
<p>I can only speak of my experiences, having owned, shown and bred English Setters for for over 20 years, all of mine have been show strain. </p>
<p>The three bitches that I had neutered, (for medical reasons only), could not continue to be shown as the coats all turned to candy floss and had to be kept stripped with just some feathering underneath to keep them looking nice and settery. </p>
<p>The two boys that I had neutered, again for medical reasons, one was a 9 year old who never really…</p>
<p>I can only speak of my experiences, having owned, shown and bred English Setters for for over 20 years, all of mine have been show strain. </p>
<p>The three bitches that I had neutered, (for medical reasons only), could not continue to be shown as the coats all turned to candy floss and had to be kept stripped with just some feathering underneath to keep them looking nice and settery. </p>
<p>The two boys that I had neutered, again for medical reasons, one was a 9 year old who never really carried much coat and didn't look any different other than he finally bodied up and looked healthy after being a skinny ribs all his life. The other boy had a problem with a retained testicle that did drop at 5 months but there was a problem with it so he was neutered. He has a lovely coat but it isn't as long and glamorous as his litter brother that wasn't neutered.</p>
<p>I hope this information may help x</p> Oh for heaven's sake Sue.....…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-22:865021:Comment:8493452011-11-22T17:53:33.643Zeva ciechonskahttps://irishsetters.ning.com/xn/detail/u_0gijg39gsgi1q
<p>Oh for heaven's sake Sue..........why??? You cannot leave over one poster. I reiterate to you what I said to Pat. Where is your backbone. You have to fight your corner and not let the complainers of this world get the better of you. Your comments and advice are always very welcome........don't go!!</p>
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<p>Oh for heaven's sake Sue..........why??? You cannot leave over one poster. I reiterate to you what I said to Pat. Where is your backbone. You have to fight your corner and not let the complainers of this world get the better of you. Your comments and advice are always very welcome........don't go!!</p>
<p> </p> How sad that someone can upse…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-22:865021:Comment:8486152011-11-22T11:16:05.060Zeva ciechonskahttps://irishsetters.ning.com/xn/detail/u_0gijg39gsgi1q
<p>How sad that someone can upset or insult others and expect no redress yet when the tables are turned on them the first thing they do is complain. </p>
<p>Pat I have read and re-read your comments and cannot for the life of me see what there is to complain about. It would be very sad for ES to lose someone of your knowledge, sense and experience over this. Please re-consider. </p>
<p>We should encourage robust debate not stifle it. How else would we learn from others.</p>
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<p>How sad that someone can upset or insult others and expect no redress yet when the tables are turned on them the first thing they do is complain. </p>
<p>Pat I have read and re-read your comments and cannot for the life of me see what there is to complain about. It would be very sad for ES to lose someone of your knowledge, sense and experience over this. Please re-consider. </p>
<p>We should encourage robust debate not stifle it. How else would we learn from others.</p>
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<p> </p> Don't go Pat!!
IMO, yes, the…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-22:865021:Comment:8485872011-11-22T05:24:18.193ZAndrea Maxwellhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/AndreaMaxwell
<p>Don't go Pat!!</p>
<p>IMO, yes, the coat changes... Spartan's coat, which was a full show coat, turned to absolute crap after he was desexed. I tried to stay on top of it, stripping and trimming, but it would matt so fast. It was definitely the black hairs, as I have no issues with the white coat and it never gave me any issues. The coat on the tail also seemed to go coarse, and i can't explain why that is either.</p>
<p>Perhaps it is a mixture of reasons why it does or doesn't change...…</p>
<p>Don't go Pat!!</p>
<p>IMO, yes, the coat changes... Spartan's coat, which was a full show coat, turned to absolute crap after he was desexed. I tried to stay on top of it, stripping and trimming, but it would matt so fast. It was definitely the black hairs, as I have no issues with the white coat and it never gave me any issues. The coat on the tail also seemed to go coarse, and i can't explain why that is either.</p>
<p>Perhaps it is a mixture of reasons why it does or doesn't change... but I can tell you I have avoided and will continue to hold off on desexing my younger ES because I don't want to deal with that type of coat. I am considering a vasectomy now as an alternative.</p>
<p>Just to add, with the right care of the coat, Atopy doesnt change the coat, desexed or not. spartan IS atopic, and he had a beautiful coat as an entire.</p> Well ladies, it would seem I…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-11-22:865021:Comment:8485842011-11-22T04:07:22.079ZPat Aldridgehttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/PatAldridge
<p>Well ladies, it would seem I have "upset" a poster on here - dear me, now I wonder who it could be that complained about my post???</p>
<p>Fear not, I will not be returning to Exclusively Setters - I really can't be bothered being ticked off because of a nobody who doesn't even breed...</p>
<p>I'm out of here...bye!</p>
<p>Well ladies, it would seem I have "upset" a poster on here - dear me, now I wonder who it could be that complained about my post???</p>
<p>Fear not, I will not be returning to Exclusively Setters - I really can't be bothered being ticked off because of a nobody who doesn't even breed...</p>
<p>I'm out of here...bye!</p>