For those interested videos from Westminster today - Exclusively Setters2024-03-28T20:09:01Zhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/for-those-interested-videos-from-westminster-today?commentId=865021%3AComment%3A893717&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI have a breeder friend who n…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2012-02-18:865021:Comment:8943882012-02-18T01:18:53.952ZChristina Grayhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/ChristinaGray
<p>I have a breeder friend who now refuses to wear skirts after going a** over applecart in one at a show when she slipped on the floor and exposed more of herself than she appreciated.</p>
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<p>For most shows, I'd go with anything professional looking and somewhat polished (though we *could* start a whole new thread on the outfits seen at US dog shows :-). I have often thought it could be a good business to start a consulting firm that counsels folks on what IS and IS not tasteful and…</p>
<p>I have a breeder friend who now refuses to wear skirts after going a** over applecart in one at a show when she slipped on the floor and exposed more of herself than she appreciated.</p>
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<p>For most shows, I'd go with anything professional looking and somewhat polished (though we *could* start a whole new thread on the outfits seen at US dog shows :-). I have often thought it could be a good business to start a consulting firm that counsels folks on what IS and IS not tasteful and professional. But as I said, another thread. Pink spandex is not tasteful nor professional. JMO. Business suits -- for men or women -- are. Hopefully you are not competing for attention with your dog, and you should blend into the background, eh?</p>
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<p>Westminster has a tradition from the olden days of being formal - some of the judges will be seen in black tie & floor length dresses. It's just an old tradition. Like our old National Horse Show at the same venue - where spectators wore black tie.</p> I agree Camilla, I try not to…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2012-02-18:865021:Comment:8943862012-02-18T00:38:41.105ZJOANNEhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/JOANNE
<p>I agree Camilla, I try not to do stretchy :-). Lovely video to watch and I must say for me Emily was the one that caught my eye. She is lucky to have such a lovely handler, bless him he was wondeful with her :-) </p>
<p>I agree Camilla, I try not to do stretchy :-). Lovely video to watch and I must say for me Emily was the one that caught my eye. She is lucky to have such a lovely handler, bless him he was wondeful with her :-) </p> She is a mutual friend of our…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2012-02-17:865021:Comment:8944702012-02-17T20:02:22.959Zeva ciechonskahttps://irishsetters.ning.com/xn/detail/u_0gijg39gsgi1q
<p>She is a mutual friend of ours and, yes, she has a very good figure.</p>
<p>Tracy.....men in kilts have more than just wet noses to worry about........</p>
<p>She is a mutual friend of ours and, yes, she has a very good figure.</p>
<p>Tracy.....men in kilts have more than just wet noses to worry about........</p> A UK exhibitor bought a suit…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2012-02-17:865021:Comment:8942612012-02-17T18:27:55.856Zeva ciechonskahttps://irishsetters.ning.com/xn/detail/u_0gijg39gsgi1q
<p>A UK exhibitor bought a suit in the US expressely to show in. It was beautiful and made of stretchy jersey so she had freedom of movement and wasn't restricted in any way. Such a good idea..........</p>
<p>Men do show in kilts over here. Fair takes a girl's mind of what she is supposed to do!!!</p>
<p>A UK exhibitor bought a suit in the US expressely to show in. It was beautiful and made of stretchy jersey so she had freedom of movement and wasn't restricted in any way. Such a good idea..........</p>
<p>Men do show in kilts over here. Fair takes a girl's mind of what she is supposed to do!!!</p> culottes - it seems they're e…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2012-02-17:865021:Comment:8942492012-02-17T17:44:47.577ZJean Lippetthttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/JeanLippett
<p><a href="http://www.apparelsearch.com/Definitions/Clothing/culottes.htm" target="_blank">culottes</a> - it seems they're exceedingly out of fashion, but I mean a formal garment that looks like a skirt but as it's divided, allows the freedom of shorts. So that the gentlemen don't have such an advantage over the ladies when moving their dogs. Of course it could be mandatory for the fellows to wear…</p>
<p><a href="http://www.apparelsearch.com/Definitions/Clothing/culottes.htm" target="_blank">culottes</a> - it seems they're exceedingly out of fashion, but I mean a formal garment that looks like a skirt but as it's divided, allows the freedom of shorts. So that the gentlemen don't have such an advantage over the ladies when moving their dogs. Of course it could be mandatory for the fellows to wear <a href="http://nextinvogue.blogspot.com/2011/07/men-in-skirts-dresses-mens-fashion-week.html" target="_blank">mens skirts</a> :)</p> What's the Westminster dress…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2012-02-17:865021:Comment:8941272012-02-17T13:12:29.614ZJean Lippetthttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/JeanLippett
<p>What's the Westminster dress code and how compulsory is it? I understand that smart is essential but are any alternatives to the straight skirted two piece suit and flimsy shoes allowed for women handlers? Could they wear culottes or . . even . . <em>trousers . . .</em> to enable them to match the men's ability to stride out? Is it a social understanding or a written rule and does it apply at other shows?</p>
<p>What's the Westminster dress code and how compulsory is it? I understand that smart is essential but are any alternatives to the straight skirted two piece suit and flimsy shoes allowed for women handlers? Could they wear culottes or . . even . . <em>trousers . . .</em> to enable them to match the men's ability to stride out? Is it a social understanding or a written rule and does it apply at other shows?</p> Actually replying to Mel and…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2012-02-16:865021:Comment:8938452012-02-16T12:14:35.627ZChristina Grayhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/ChristinaGray
<p>Actually replying to Mel and Tracy below here (no reply button).</p>
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<p>A proper tail set (per tradition, if you follow the changes of the standard back through time) is at or just below the back. There are plenty of old fashioned breeders who are appalled with the tail sets now commonly seen.Ironically, in the field dual-purpose breeders have to put up with being told their dogs carry their tails too low on point :-(</p>
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<p>But, as has so often been said here, you have to…</p>
<p>Actually replying to Mel and Tracy below here (no reply button).</p>
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<p>A proper tail set (per tradition, if you follow the changes of the standard back through time) is at or just below the back. There are plenty of old fashioned breeders who are appalled with the tail sets now commonly seen.Ironically, in the field dual-purpose breeders have to put up with being told their dogs carry their tails too low on point :-(</p>
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<p>But, as has so often been said here, you have to consider the whole dog, and if I had to pick one thing that I can't abide, it is that there are way too many sickle-hocked, poorly moving dogs being shown here nowadays. Just my opinion.</p> Congratulations, Emily, I tho…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2012-02-16:865021:Comment:8939002012-02-16T08:37:50.322Zdee milligan-botthttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/deemilliganbott
Congratulations, Emily, I thought you looked super, such a well deserved win, I loved watching every moment of the video. Well done to all concerned.
Congratulations, Emily, I thought you looked super, such a well deserved win, I loved watching every moment of the video. Well done to all concerned. The UK breed standard states…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2012-02-16:865021:Comment:8938232012-02-16T00:44:11.876Zeva ciechonskahttps://irishsetters.ning.com/xn/detail/u_0gijg39gsgi1q
<p>The UK breed standard states that <em>the tail should be of moderate length, proportionate to length of body, set on just below the level of the back, strong at root tapering to a fine point <strong>and carried as nearly as possible on a level with or just below the</strong></em> <strong>back.</strong></p>
<p>So that is why we hold our tails the way we do because for us the tail is an extension of the back. As you say, it's all in your eye and what you are used to. When we look at the way…</p>
<p>The UK breed standard states that <em>the tail should be of moderate length, proportionate to length of body, set on just below the level of the back, strong at root tapering to a fine point <strong>and carried as nearly as possible on a level with or just below the</strong></em> <strong>back.</strong></p>
<p>So that is why we hold our tails the way we do because for us the tail is an extension of the back. As you say, it's all in your eye and what you are used to. When we look at the way you hold your tails in the stack we think you break that line. So there you go.....two trains of thought with two different explainations but both valid. We also do tend to penalise high tail carriage and many otherwise good dogs have not made up for that reason.</p> Thanks Tracy........it's my E…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2012-02-16:865021:Comment:8938822012-02-16T00:18:47.954Zeva ciechonskahttps://irishsetters.ning.com/xn/detail/u_0gijg39gsgi1q
<p>Thanks Tracy........it's my Edward posing for the camera!!!</p>
<p>We do have unbenched Club shows to which we bring soft crates and that works pretty well too. We do all our bathing, preparation etc the night before and just put the finishing touches to the dogs before we go in the class. We, as a breed, don't use grooming tables but grooming areas are provided for breeds that do and they bring all their own equipment. We tend to groom by our benches.</p>
<p>I agree with Mel, Crufts can…</p>
<p>Thanks Tracy........it's my Edward posing for the camera!!!</p>
<p>We do have unbenched Club shows to which we bring soft crates and that works pretty well too. We do all our bathing, preparation etc the night before and just put the finishing touches to the dogs before we go in the class. We, as a breed, don't use grooming tables but grooming areas are provided for breeds that do and they bring all their own equipment. We tend to groom by our benches.</p>
<p>I agree with Mel, Crufts can be a worry and we have to be vigilant. I caought a member of the pupblic trying to feed one of my dogs once. Luckily there was nothing sinister in it but you do have to watch.</p>