Problems with hunters killing dogs - Exclusively Setters2024-03-29T07:49:28Zhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/problems-with-hunters-killing?commentId=865021%3AComment%3A139390&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks Ursula!!!tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-27:865021:Comment:1409892009-01-27T13:22:10.950ZDee Rancehttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/DeeRance
Thanks Ursula!!!
Thanks Ursula!!! Susan, in a way it is interes…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-26:865021:Comment:1407002009-01-26T20:09:54.686Zursula wilbyhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/mossby188
Susan, in a way it is interesting the turns these discussion take.<br />
In fact rather like any conversation.<br />
You start at one end and move on...I personally find these "branching-outs" interesting. And have now learned about the horses in India amongst lots of other things.
Susan, in a way it is interesting the turns these discussion take.<br />
In fact rather like any conversation.<br />
You start at one end and move on...I personally find these "branching-outs" interesting. And have now learned about the horses in India amongst lots of other things. No not really although it is…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-26:865021:Comment:1406672009-01-26T19:42:05.386ZDee Rancehttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/DeeRance
No not really although it is a different animal it is still the same subject.......it shows that there are people who will do what is necessary to help their animals in time of need, although some young dogs are being killed in some country's, just because their owners don't want to keep them over the 'non' hunting season, what I described was the love for the animal, the other is just down rite cruelty. Some of these dogs are just hanged from the nearest tree, don't want to wast a precious…
No not really although it is a different animal it is still the same subject.......it shows that there are people who will do what is necessary to help their animals in time of need, although some young dogs are being killed in some country's, just because their owners don't want to keep them over the 'non' hunting season, what I described was the love for the animal, the other is just down rite cruelty. Some of these dogs are just hanged from the nearest tree, don't want to wast a precious bullet on them........as I said down rite cruelty......and yes these people will just shoot any dog just because it is in the wrong place, and then probably charge the owner of the dead dog the price of the bullet..... Oh I am with you there, when…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-25:865021:Comment:1397342009-01-25T11:37:56.175ZDee Rancehttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/DeeRance
Oh I am with you there, when I first heard about it I just sobbed for ages, how brave of the troops to do this 'wonderful' thing for their precious 'friends' it still upsets me to think about it, but I do admire them for their courage. When we killed some of our sheep they had their heads in buckets eating, they didn't know what happened to them, much better than waiting in line at an abattoir (I think that is how it is spelt) or as in the horses case be worked to death.
Oh I am with you there, when I first heard about it I just sobbed for ages, how brave of the troops to do this 'wonderful' thing for their precious 'friends' it still upsets me to think about it, but I do admire them for their courage. When we killed some of our sheep they had their heads in buckets eating, they didn't know what happened to them, much better than waiting in line at an abattoir (I think that is how it is spelt) or as in the horses case be worked to death. Dee, it was sad to read about…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-25:865021:Comment:1396792009-01-25T08:41:55.185Zursula wilbyhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/mossby188
Dee, it was sad to read about the horses in India.<br />
I had no idea at all, but having been to India a couple of times and seen the horses there I can well understand.<br />
But it takes a lot of currage to actually to put the animals wellbeing in front of your own emotions.
Dee, it was sad to read about the horses in India.<br />
I had no idea at all, but having been to India a couple of times and seen the horses there I can well understand.<br />
But it takes a lot of currage to actually to put the animals wellbeing in front of your own emotions. When the British pulled out o…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-24:865021:Comment:1395112009-01-24T17:59:21.974ZDee Rancehttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/DeeRance
When the British pulled out of parts of India, the Cavalry would get themselves into their best clothes, groom and tack their horses, take the animals on the parade ground, and then they would shoot them, all at the same time, the horses were doing what they were breed to do, and then 'nothing' it was better than leaving them to be abused by the local people, because they couldn't take the animals back to Britten, in this case it was the best thing to do, I wish that I had the courage to do…
When the British pulled out of parts of India, the Cavalry would get themselves into their best clothes, groom and tack their horses, take the animals on the parade ground, and then they would shoot them, all at the same time, the horses were doing what they were breed to do, and then 'nothing' it was better than leaving them to be abused by the local people, because they couldn't take the animals back to Britten, in this case it was the best thing to do, I wish that I had the courage to do something like that, but I haven't, I need the vet to help me out, I won't take my dog to the vet, they always come out to me, so the dog has everything just as it has known it for all its life, not the trauma of the vet surgery. Yes but that is a different t…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-24:865021:Comment:1393902009-01-24T07:38:19.507Zursula wilbyhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/mossby188
Yes but that is a different type of killing than the discussion intended, Henk.<br />
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I know one hunter that shoots his own dogs like this. To me it sounded terribly cruel, but having sat down and spoken in depth about it, I could see that he was probably right. He would take the old and sick dog out for a last "hunt". There, in the field, when the dog was doing exactly what he had done for years (and loved) he was shot.<br />
We are all so far removed from death and want things to be tidy, clean and…
Yes but that is a different type of killing than the discussion intended, Henk.<br />
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I know one hunter that shoots his own dogs like this. To me it sounded terribly cruel, but having sat down and spoken in depth about it, I could see that he was probably right. He would take the old and sick dog out for a last "hunt". There, in the field, when the dog was doing exactly what he had done for years (and loved) he was shot.<br />
We are all so far removed from death and want things to be tidy, clean and nice. I do too, I could never handle that type of death of my own dog and have a vet come to my house and give the dog an injection when he/she is laying on the settee.<br />
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But I know that this particular hunter loves his dogs dearly, and to him, shooting a dog when it is happy hunting is the best way for the dog.<br />
And yes, I can see his point and find this is probably a very kind last gesture, and in many ways a happier end for the dog than a tearful "goodbye" to a (perhaps) stressed out old dog at a vets-clinic. Last and only time seeing a h…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-23:865021:Comment:1393142009-01-23T21:28:47.801ZHenk ten Kloosterhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Setterset
Last and only time seeing a hunter shooting his dog, was being a six year old boy, big dogfan having bought my Irish setter at four years of age.<br />
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"Pluto" the hunter called, sounding a bit tragic. Behind the haystack old Pluto, a Drentse Partridge Dog, struggled to get his old body on four legs again.<br />
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His near to dead eyes got a twinkle seeing his hunter with rifle, maybe thinking HEY means adventure.<br />
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It was Pluto's last twinkle. And the first and only time I saw a huge lot of tears on that…
Last and only time seeing a hunter shooting his dog, was being a six year old boy, big dogfan having bought my Irish setter at four years of age.<br />
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"Pluto" the hunter called, sounding a bit tragic. Behind the haystack old Pluto, a Drentse Partridge Dog, struggled to get his old body on four legs again.<br />
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His near to dead eyes got a twinkle seeing his hunter with rifle, maybe thinking HEY means adventure.<br />
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It was Pluto's last twinkle. And the first and only time I saw a huge lot of tears on that hunters steelface. Thank goodness we dont have a…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-23:865021:Comment:1392632009-01-23T18:36:07.327ZCarmel Murphyhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Clannrua
Thank goodness we dont have a rabies problem(for now!!) But dogs on roads is difficult for drivers as it can be dangerous to stop suddenly for an animal that runs out onto the road!! If you are in a town its not too bad, but a fast road(motorway etc) is very tough!! Why are the dogs out loose I wonder? I dont like to see free ranging dogs!
Thank goodness we dont have a rabies problem(for now!!) But dogs on roads is difficult for drivers as it can be dangerous to stop suddenly for an animal that runs out onto the road!! If you are in a town its not too bad, but a fast road(motorway etc) is very tough!! Why are the dogs out loose I wonder? I dont like to see free ranging dogs! Few years back, our hunters i…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2009-01-23:865021:Comment:1392602009-01-23T18:27:06.588ZDušan Rauškihttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Draushki
Few years back, our hunters in Serbia, had permission to shoot dogs outside of the populated areas. In fact they were doing this methodically having in mind that these dogs often chase wild game as you pointed, and also are spreading the rabies.<br />
But it is already several years now that there is a law that forbids killing a dog even if it is abandoned in the middle of nowhere. We did had one incident two years back (i think) when group of hunters in a small village cleansed the whole village of…
Few years back, our hunters in Serbia, had permission to shoot dogs outside of the populated areas. In fact they were doing this methodically having in mind that these dogs often chase wild game as you pointed, and also are spreading the rabies.<br />
But it is already several years now that there is a law that forbids killing a dog even if it is abandoned in the middle of nowhere. We did had one incident two years back (i think) when group of hunters in a small village cleansed the whole village of dogs in a brutal way - but it got in media (altogether with pictures) and whole hell broke lose on hunters everywhere, even Brigite Bardot from France intervened writing a letter to president.<br />
I think personally that right now main danger for dogs are busy roads, cause i do see unfortunately a lot of dogs runed over by trucks and cars on my way to work every day. I just can't understand what kind of person doesn't slow down or even stops a car when dog is on the road (or any other animal for that matter).