Stud fees - Exclusively Setters2024-03-29T08:48:58Zhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/forum/topics/stud-fees?commentId=865021%3AComment%3A496666&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIt varies quite a lot over he…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-03-03:865021:Comment:4970672011-03-03T01:30:31.044ZCarmel Murphyhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/Clannrua
It varies quite a lot over here unfortunately! I recently enquired about a certain dog and was quoted €850 which is much more than I have paid in the very recent past for an equally excellent stud dog?? So I am going back to the previous equally excellent stud dog;o)) I will not pay more than the price of a pup(€650) for the stud dog!! I usually pay after mating! But if no pups get repeat mating!
It varies quite a lot over here unfortunately! I recently enquired about a certain dog and was quoted €850 which is much more than I have paid in the very recent past for an equally excellent stud dog?? So I am going back to the previous equally excellent stud dog;o)) I will not pay more than the price of a pup(€650) for the stud dog!! I usually pay after mating! But if no pups get repeat mating! Ihave also never heard of the…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-03-02:865021:Comment:4967942011-03-02T19:36:52.020ZWendy Lewishttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/WendyLewis444
<p>Ihave also never heard of the stud owner have a pick of the litter, yet I have heard that the stud fee is the cost of a puppy, therefore anyone know why there is such a huge range of price of a puppy. I believe £700 is the standard rate?(ish)</p>
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<p>I do consider the term 'proven' as a sire of puppies not necessarily of winning puppies the latter being very favourable.</p>
<p>Ihave also never heard of the stud owner have a pick of the litter, yet I have heard that the stud fee is the cost of a puppy, therefore anyone know why there is such a huge range of price of a puppy. I believe £700 is the standard rate?(ish)</p>
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<p>I do consider the term 'proven' as a sire of puppies not necessarily of winning puppies the latter being very favourable.</p> In my opinion a proven sire i…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-03-02:865021:Comment:4965232011-03-02T19:21:38.265ZMarta Magihttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/totoritti
<p>In my opinion a proven sire is a dog that has sired puppies that I LIKE or find interesting for various reasons, regardless of the show results - however, I will be glad if they win at times.</p>
<p>It's the same with the stud himself, he doesn't need to win at shows, he only needs to meet my requirements ... titles are just bonus.</p>
<p>In my opinion a proven sire is a dog that has sired puppies that I LIKE or find interesting for various reasons, regardless of the show results - however, I will be glad if they win at times.</p>
<p>It's the same with the stud himself, he doesn't need to win at shows, he only needs to meet my requirements ... titles are just bonus.</p> I agree. I would also use a…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-03-02:865021:Comment:4965062011-03-02T17:24:48.073Zeva ciechonskahttps://irishsetters.ning.com/xn/detail/u_0gijg39gsgi1q
<p>I agree. I would also use a dog regardless of the title but this was told to me so I thought I would ask. </p>
<p>I know of present day stud dog owners who are not charging anything like the price of a puppy either (Concept's stud fee was always less) so should the charge be standardised across the board? Should the term 'proven sire' refer to a dog who produces puppies or who produces winning puppies. Would you expect to pay more for a prepotent sire or should every dog who has sired a…</p>
<p>I agree. I would also use a dog regardless of the title but this was told to me so I thought I would ask. </p>
<p>I know of present day stud dog owners who are not charging anything like the price of a puppy either (Concept's stud fee was always less) so should the charge be standardised across the board? Should the term 'proven sire' refer to a dog who produces puppies or who produces winning puppies. Would you expect to pay more for a prepotent sire or should every dog who has sired a litter be the price of a puppy? Would love to hear your views. </p>
<p>Incidentally I don't ever remember a stud dog owner asking for 'pick of litter'. That choice was always the breeder's prerogative. </p> Hi Sheree gosh ES £950 to £10…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-03-02:865021:Comment:4965032011-03-02T14:56:39.168ZWendy Lewishttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/WendyLewis444
<p>Hi Sheree gosh ES £950 to £1000 :-) It seems there is a range of price for IS pups too!</p>
<p>I like you, choose a dog I like not what is the flavor........ we have some very nice IS boys around at the moment.</p>
<p>Re Denver thanks he is so lovely we are very proud of him, he is pleasure (except when he wont eat) he is now thinking of sex, Gill and Keith have 5 ES girls so someone always coming in or out of season - boys and hormones!!</p>
<p>We have high hopes of a good show career he…</p>
<p>Hi Sheree gosh ES £950 to £1000 :-) It seems there is a range of price for IS pups too!</p>
<p>I like you, choose a dog I like not what is the flavor........ we have some very nice IS boys around at the moment.</p>
<p>Re Denver thanks he is so lovely we are very proud of him, he is pleasure (except when he wont eat) he is now thinking of sex, Gill and Keith have 5 ES girls so someone always coming in or out of season - boys and hormones!!</p>
<p>We have high hopes of a good show career he adores Grandad Keith, we have trouble getting to the shows due to commitments so Keith kindly shows him for us.</p>
<p>We fell in love with him at 7 weeks and then introduced him to Gill and Keith who also fell in love with him (luckily) :-)</p> Um a thought indeed....... I…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-03-02:865021:Comment:4961222011-03-02T14:45:05.047ZWendy Lewishttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/WendyLewis444
Um a thought indeed....... I have thought it to be so, the stud dog becomes a ShCh therefore he is more in demand. I honestly don't know if the cost would be higher or reasons why it should? This may be an urban myth maybe ask ShCh owners if the cost does go up? If I like a dog I would use him regardless of the ScCh status. How do others feel?
Um a thought indeed....... I have thought it to be so, the stud dog becomes a ShCh therefore he is more in demand. I honestly don't know if the cost would be higher or reasons why it should? This may be an urban myth maybe ask ShCh owners if the cost does go up? If I like a dog I would use him regardless of the ScCh status. How do others feel? When my boys have been used I…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-03-02:865021:Comment:4966662011-03-02T14:38:32.689ZSheree Parrishhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/ShereeParrish
<p>When my boys have been used I've usually had a pup back...English Setters are now selling for £950-£1000 each, I would be astounded if anyone charged or expected to pay a stud fee of that amount, show champion or not.</p>
<p>I've also used dogs I liked rather than go for the trend to use the latest winner, you have to look at the overall package and whether the dog would compliment your bitch. With the English we also have the quandry of mating an orange belton to orange belton and only…</p>
<p>When my boys have been used I've usually had a pup back...English Setters are now selling for £950-£1000 each, I would be astounded if anyone charged or expected to pay a stud fee of that amount, show champion or not.</p>
<p>I've also used dogs I liked rather than go for the trend to use the latest winner, you have to look at the overall package and whether the dog would compliment your bitch. With the English we also have the quandry of mating an orange belton to orange belton and only getting orange pups, so most tend to look for a different colour stud if they have an orange bitch.</p>
<p>Wendy, I've had the pleasure of seeing your boy in the flesh, (I know Keith and Gill :-) ), and he is absolutely beautiful.</p> When my dog was used for stud…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-03-02:865021:Comment:4963942011-03-02T11:07:26.620ZHoward Glansfieldhttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/HowardGlansfield
When my dog was used for stud,many years ago,the payment was either 'pick of the litter' or the price of a puppy.
When my dog was used for stud,many years ago,the payment was either 'pick of the litter' or the price of a puppy. Hi Eva,
me as a bitch owner d…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-03-02:865021:Comment:4960902011-03-02T10:36:18.608ZMarta Magihttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/totoritti
<p>Hi Eva,</p>
<p>me as a bitch owner don't care about the show results, however it makes me happy if the dog I like wins at shows. BUT it is not the same as I would chose the dog for stud because he wins a lot... I hope you feel the difference :-) <br></br>Me as a bitch owner would pay all my money including my last coin for a stud dog that I am intend to use, on the other hand there are a number of champions that I would never use, not for all the tea in China. Not cause I find them ugly, just…</p>
<p>Hi Eva,</p>
<p>me as a bitch owner don't care about the show results, however it makes me happy if the dog I like wins at shows. BUT it is not the same as I would chose the dog for stud because he wins a lot... I hope you feel the difference :-) <br/>Me as a bitch owner would pay all my money including my last coin for a stud dog that I am intend to use, on the other hand there are a number of champions that I would never use, not for all the tea in China. Not cause I find them ugly, just because they are not my type or not suit my bitch etc, and there is nothing to talk about from that point ... even it is a World Winner. <br/>Tastes differ a lot, and beauty is relative, and some judges may prefer other dogs than I do, therefore show and breeding should be approached separately in my opinion.</p> I have followed this discussi…tag:irishsetters.ning.com,2011-03-02:865021:Comment:4962782011-03-02T10:25:57.303ZMarta Magihttps://irishsetters.ning.com/profile/totoritti
I have followed this discussion with much interest, and looking forward to further comments and opinions from all around the world preferably Europe. It would be nice to see clear how these things and protocols work in the UK and in other countries. I also want a fair charge when it may come to someone wants my dog's service as a stud. Differences will be everywhere I guess, but would be nice to know what you find a fair and friendly price for a mating? What the price actually depends on?…
I have followed this discussion with much interest, and looking forward to further comments and opinions from all around the world preferably Europe. It would be nice to see clear how these things and protocols work in the UK and in other countries. I also want a fair charge when it may come to someone wants my dog's service as a stud. Differences will be everywhere I guess, but would be nice to know what you find a fair and friendly price for a mating? What the price actually depends on? <br/><br/>Type, appearence, bloodline suits my bitch or not, pedigree, character, offspring already produced ....... show results, being well known or rarely shown, maybe a Champion or not etc... or is there anything else that counts? It's my order of importance, but these are just a few from the many to take under consideration when chosing a stud dog ... the list is very long anyway. However, none of the aboves should rise or low the stud fee, I think.