Field trialers

Comment by Anne D. Boyd on March 10, 2011 at 11:01pm

I am curious to learn about field trials in other countries. In California most of the trials are on horseback and are not shoot to kill just blanks. What are your stakes like, what are the requirements for the different stakes?

Comment by Wim Dokter on March 12, 2011 at 6:02am

In Holland it's like in Belgium, France and Germany. We are in the field walking behind the dogs.

In Holland young dogs compete in the youth class where you get a walk off ten minutes. When there was now birds in this ten minutes and the work off the dog was in the way off the breed? The juged can decide to give a second ore third walk. Steadenes is not needed.

This most be there in the open class.

 

Comment by Anne D. Boyd on March 12, 2011 at 12:04pm

Thank you for the information. I would really love to be able to see one of your trials. Maybe next year I will try to get to the continent to see some trials. There is so much to learn about this breed that I love so much.

Comment by Wim Dokter on April 3, 2011 at 3:07am

Saterday 02 April, Rilland Holland

Fergus vom Kapellenpfad competed in his first youth field trial.

He was rewarded with a Eervolle Vermelding.

 

Comment by Margaret Sierakowski on April 3, 2011 at 6:36am

The Scottish Spring Trials on grouse finished yesterday. Dalriach Neige ran in three Novice and one Open Stake, and got a 2nd in the Novice stake at Drymachan (29 dogs entered). The last two days at Dalmagarry  we had terrible weather, snow, sleet, water running down the hillside, cold winter. The dogs couldnt find scent and there were no awards in the novice stake

Neige was the only IRWS running, but I was interested to see the growing number of dual purpose Gordons entered. The Gordon people are really trying to breed a medium sized , athletc dog with less coat who is acceptable type for the show ring , but can also work. They are getting faster with a smoother more level gallop, and are covering more ground than some of the taller show type Gordons they used to run. I was also impressed how hard these Gordon people are working at breeding and training a more successful dual type dog. The IRWS people in England who are interested in training their dogs could learn a lot from them

Comment by Wim Dokter on April 3, 2011 at 9:09am

Congratulations!

Comment by Susan Stone on April 3, 2011 at 10:03am

Results coming in I see... Congratulations to Fergus!

and

Congratulations to Dalriach Neige! So I see it was definitely worth perservering...

Do you have the full results, please? Speaking fo the Gordons, I wonder how Boyers Strauss did? I loved watching this boy run in Reeth.

Hot & sunny here!

Susan in Switzerland

Comment by Margaret Sierakowski on April 3, 2011 at 12:31pm

Susan, I dont think Boyar's Strauss was in the awards. He did get through to the second round in at least two of the Novice stakes, maybe more.

But there were not a lot of awards in Novice, none at Dalmagarry because the weather was so bad. The Darraghs between them scooped a lot of the places in both Open and Novice:))

Comment by Margaret Sierakowski on April 3, 2011 at 12:50pm

Dave , I would love to see some more IRWS running in field trials whether FT bred or some dual purpose dogs who are also shown

Comment by Margaret Sierakowski on April 9, 2011 at 4:45pm

Its a real problem, Dave. Realistically the IRWS is going the same way as the other setter breeds, split into show and FT dogs. Some of the Gordon people are trying to breed a dual purpose dog and doing it with some success . The IRWS breeders are not even trying, the show people in the UK breed for the show ring, and the Irish field triallers breed for field trialling.. Even where some people in England have used some of my dogs, who have working dogs in their pedigrees, in their breeding, the offspring go in the show ring but  dont get trained to work. I feel like I am banging my head against a brick wall at times! On the more positive side, there are people in other countries like Norway who like the kind of dogs who look good AND can work. And a couple of people in England have imported IRWS from Ireland recently who have predominantly working pedigrees which they will use in their breeding. But mainly to get some genetic diversity rather than because because they want dogs who will work. At least it will help to slow down the drift towards diverging  breed types

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