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Am I the only one in the world who joined this group with the hope of meeting other English Setter owners on an Irish Setter website? There must be more of us crazies out there!!
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English Setter Size...

by Andrea Maxwell

Oct 11, 2010

So I discovered the other day that my rather small English is actually below standard... standing at just under 64cm when the standard is 65cm...my other English male stands dead on 65cm.

 

I have been told by a couple of people i know that the UK English Setters are quite small... is this true?  Are they below standard and if they are, is there a reason behind why no one seems to be breeding them to standard?  I know that size is a small aspect when breeding but i am curious...

 

So... what is your ES height? I am curious to find out a bit of an average across the board...

 

 

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    Michelle Walsh

    I have 2 male English Setters at the moment & they are like chalk & cheese in many ways including height/size. Both are from working strain.

    Legolas (8) is 65cm at the shoulder and weighs about 35-36 kg...he's a big lad with a huge chest/lung area.

    Theoden (6) is 62cm at the shoulder and weighs under 30 kg and is much slighter over all. When I bring them out for a walk together people always assume Theoden is a bitch due to the size difference but it could be to due with being possibly closer to the Llewellin strain which I think are supposed to be smaller for hunting purposes.

    You can see the size difference quite clearly in the picture.

    ~Michelle

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    Jan 9, 2011

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      Michelle Walsh

      I've seen some small working strains too Sheree, even smaller than Theoden and quite slight, little whippets :)

      I think Theo is about average, as for Lego it's hard to know why he's as big as he is for a 'working' dog. He's not registered so I've no family history, it's possible that there's some bench blood in there some where along the line & maybe that's why he's bigger then Theo. Like Henry,  it's a whole lot of dog when he jumps up on you ! even while lying on me on the couch, he can cut off the blood supply to my legs ! :)

      Jan 9, 2011

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        Andrea Maxwell

        Thanks for your feedback so far everyone!  it seems that it is mostly rumour then, the height thing...

        although, in saying that most of your boys are at the bottom end of the standard for height at 65cm... does anyone have a taller ES male than 65cm? if not, then perhaps the trend of smaller setters is happening in the UK/Europe...  jsut that they are still within standard.

         

        Michelle interesting about your two boys!  i wonder if it is possible that one of Lego's parents was a full bench bred?

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        Jan 10, 2011