I have one irish setter layla, she was diagnosed as havng lopra at 2 and 1/2 years old (shed probably had it for 18months before diagnosis )she is now 7 years old and as been totally blind to this disease for the past 3 years .layla was hereditry clear and clear herself from pra(rcd1) UPDATE some 5years on we have had layla tested for pra rcd4 and she has tested as been AFFECTED for this type of the disease.finally we have some sort of closure in getting to know the cause of my girls blindness at such an early age i also have a boxer whose name is lucy she is laylas other eyes
How long have you owned Irish Setters?
we got our first red setter on new years eve 1976 and had them ever since
About Me:
i am an housewife and i have owned 3 setters since 1976 .
Oh dear what can I say to that, Is she totally blind or will it get worse?? what were her symptoms? I can't leave my Jas anywhere because she gets so stressed that she bloats, It is such a shame when they have something hereditary, there is nothing we can do to help. I hope this site can help you with her problem, its something that you dread getting and it is something that you 'test' for but it is so rear now that she is the only one I have heard of that has the early onset P.R.A. what do you refer to as the rod/cone type?? I hope you don't mind me asking all these questions? Dee and the girl
Thank you for that Unfortunately there was only 3 in the class and she was the youngest in the veteran class, it was a 'funny' day, some strange decisions, but hey that's showing for you........Saffy seems to be getting better, have talked to many people and it seems that the Stomach being in the wrong position + Colitis and Gastritis was what made her have so much pain...she is on tablets for ulcers and these seem to be working so I am keeping my fingers crossed. Thank you for the concern though, will email you with some news.....Dee and the girls
Thanks Lyn for your reply. Layla looks beautiful also and she is very lucky to have Lucy to look out for her. PRA is a sad thing to happen, but unfortunately it is in our breed as it is many others. Dogs tend to cope very well with limited site and I'm sure with her loving family Layla will do well.
Love the new pictures. Layla looks so happy opening her Christmas presents. My two didn't get that chance, my grandchildren that came up from England and their mother don't like dogs, so it made that kind of Christmas out of the question, but they are RELAXING now that they have gone.
Dee and the girls
yes, i read about her PRA previously here and i am sorry :-( must be hard for you, but i am sure she is just fine. dogs are wonderful and adapt to basically anything.
as for the snow: thanks god we get snow here in hungary every year. my younger girl was born in sweden, attached a photo of her at the age of 8 weeks :-) both of my girls love the snow, so i can imagine lucy's and layla's joy!
Thanks so much, under the circumstances it was so wonderful, (have you heard about the leaflet that came out, are you a member of ISAE?????) And thanks for the good luck on the Friday, it was a great day meeting people from the site.
Will speak soon Dee and the girls
I gave mine to someone else BUT will try and get it from someone else and send it to you, I can send you the first draught but they cut our input out so it changed a great deal. Will try and get it to you anyway
Hi there Lyn
Carol has written out the first paragraph of the leaflet on the blog 'Crufts 2009' it hasn't got it all in there but you will get the idea of what is being said, I will give you an email later but do let me and Carol on the blog know what you think of it.
Dee and the girls
Hi there Lyn
Thank you for putting your problem on the site, I am thinking of putting a Forum on the site to get people talking, I don't know about you but I feel strange about ''coming out'' it has actually taken a weight of my mind, and I think yours and my problems need bringing out into the open..I must speak to Meg, (Jas's sisters owner first) but I think that she will agree to putting it on here...it is begging to look like I am stalking you on your site....
Dee and the girls
Hi Lyn - Thanks for that! Have just looked at your photos and Arisaig looks stunning! We were up in the highlands last summer but we didn't make it to Arisaig - we are due to return this summer and will definely have a look. We have a motorhome, do you know of anywhere nice to stay nearby?
Best wishes
Justine
Hi Lyn - thanks very much for your message. I will certainly be checking my dogs annually. I think it's great to have people who are brave enough - and who love our breed enough - to offer their own experiences as a learning tool for others. I wish you all the best.
I've not seen a setter with such a curly head! Very cute. My new foster is Nola. She is quite small. She never barks and is so sweet. Hunts constantly for our cat. It's so funny. She bumps into the coffee table still, but we try to warn her. I'll keep you informed.
Hi there Lyn
Jas and I thank you for you wonderful congratulations on her birthday, it was nice talking to you the other day, though I wish I hadn't upset you so. You know that I am only at the end of the phone if you ever feel like talking again, and I do hope that we can meet soon, I will be going to Leeds so hope that you will be able to get there....All the best and thanks again Dee and the girls
Hi there Lyn
I haven't stopped crying today, people have been so kind with their comments, it will be so nice to meet you at Leeds, I think it may be a good idea to take a lot of tissues I have a feeling that we will start each other off, that said can't wait to meet you....Jas Saffy and Busby (Nicoles Gordon Boy) were in the woods yesterday and Jas was playing so well she was spinning and jumping and had a wonderful time, she only lost us once, which was wonderful, she is at the moment dreaming on the settee 'barking'........they cope better than us....
Thank you again Dee and the girls ps you have my number any time!!!!
I wondered if I could speak to you about Layla. The AHT are starting to look at Late Onset PRA with the blood samples they have. Have you submitted blood from Layla ? If not please email me at rosie.dudley@btopenworld.com and I'll let you know what to do.
Hello a big cuddle back from shadow and thanks for our message ..I am sorry to notice your setter has pra problem. It must be so nice having a comp for her..I have just looked at your pics which are so lovely.So from shadow and his family we send cuddles to layla...
Hi Lyn
thanks for the comments on Liam, at his age i dont know what to do with the cataracts it is a lot of money to have them removed i have heard that some homeopathis remidies can help with the cataracts so i will be looking into that at the moment he is a happy contented dog and enjoys all the walks cuddles and friendship of all his doggy pals and i must admit my young Irish Ryan is very good with his grandad (((hugs))) Carol x
so sorry to hear your latest news on Layla but she sounds a very happy well adjusted dog who is obviously loved to pieces and you sound as though you are coping admirably. Was she the only one affected in her litter?
enjoy her she is a very precious little girl
Best wishes
Kirsty
Lyn your beautiful Layla is so so brave and so are you, thank you for being so brave to put what you have put, I know how difficult this is, if only the people who are saying that this isn't so much of a problem, could just walk in your shoes for a few days, to see this beautiful girl of yours trying to find her way around somewhere that she doesn't know, they would be horrified, as I said you are all so brave in discussing this, please everyone who reads this please GET YOUR DOGS EYES TESTED, we need a DNA test for this, and I am sure that there are more out there than just Layla, and the couple of others on this site, a BIG THANK YOU LYN and big hugs to you all from us all here
Oh this is a two way street, I have had so much support from you over this, As I said I was so sorry about your news, but I know that dogs have other senses, that we don't, they have their sense of smell, that if it is to be believed they ''see'' with, they build up shapes in their brains of what they are smelling, don't know how true this is, but I would love to think that Jas ''sees'' things like this. I am sure that Layla is going to go on for another 10 wonderful and happy years, with you and your family to look after her, I am sure that she will. As I said these doubting people should just live with a dog that is going blind or is totally blind, if they came to the house, to be honest they probably wouldn't even know, but take the dogs to somewhere strange they would see just what we are talking about. this is what they need, a kick up the backside...and a day in your shoes.
Dee and the girls
Hi Lyn,
so sorry that the diagnosis was confirmed! Give her a hug from us down here...I know she is very special and you love her a lot!
Kindest thoughts,
Catherine
thank you for your reply. It is hard to live with Ginger's epilepsy, but at the moment she is doing very well. It is very sad news that Layla is blind. How does Layla cope with this?
Happy birthday lovely lady Layla!
It is great that you have such a good family, second eyes and friend,Lucy and you don't suffer with other disease.
I wish you a lot of fun and sunny walking!
Reni
Hi Lyn I wont dwell on what is a very upsetting thing for you all to have to deal with & I am sure that you will know that every one is behind you.I know we are talking about a different thing altogether but in my time,I had to deal with 3 case's of bloat & loosing them,,heart breaking,, you have your lovely girl,, take comfort in that it is'nt life threatining & just love her ,, I will be in touch,, take care PAT x ps would like to meet sometime,,
Hello Lyn just poped in to say Hi. Thank's for the coment about the card's for soldier's ,,yes it take's a lot of very genrous ladie's to be able to send so many card's..Just at this moment we have come to a stand still as so many people are now trying to send TREAT'S to them they have to put the very importent thing's first of course , general supplie's,,,,, I was watching Ideal World,,,,Creat and Craft,,show & someone sent in an e/mail her name wait for it was LYN from Barnsley mayhap it was you?????? take care PAT x ps would still like to meet
Hi Lyn
so many thanks for your Birthday greetings for Glenn. We enjoy this day, a warm sprin day, perfect to go swimming - only the boys :-)))
have a nice weekend, hugs to all
Esther
Sorry to now that she is blind!!! We haved a bitch that was blind to at 12 years old she was deaf also, she was lucky with her nose and whe lost her at 14 years old , a lot of luck with our Irish and sometimes whorry but still whe loves all!!!
Hi Lyn I wish it was my 50th again I would change so many thing's that have happened in my life just wishful thinking nice of you to pass it on,,,,about the card's for the soldier's I have now found a way of sending them out cant say any more but it's solid, if you would like to help you could put a poster in a craft shop as an appeal for some card's I could draft you a poster for you if you want me to this is only if you want to,,,no presure,,,looking forward to my holiday's in 2week's time going to Mundesly outside Cromer for 2 week's with the 2 schipperke's ,, and him inside,,he has to go to pay the bill's ha ha I never thought I would meet so many nice people,,you are all a dieing breed,,,,take care PAT x
Hi Lyn,, isnt life funny my Bob is waiting to go in for his knee doing ,,but first he has to ,,maybe ,,have a pacemaker fitted ,low heart rate ,,the hospital lost his note's ,,as they do,,it now seem's that it's the tablet's that he is on ,,his hospital DR checked his tablet's ,,asked how long he had been on them he said 10yr's it seem's that they are the trouble ,, he's been off them for 2week's and he's a diffrent man, doing more thing's and a lot more plesant in himself,, he has told the hospital he's not having it done ,, knee,, till we come home,,Thank's about the poster I will do one for you ,,it dosent matter if the card's are shop bought,,a card is a card ,,I will be in touch later ,,,take care,,,PAT X
Dee Rance
May 12, 2008
Dee Rance
Hadn't heard from you for ages...How is your wee girl getting on??? hope all is well with you all. Dee and the girls
Sep 18, 2008
Dee Rance
Sep 25, 2008
Dee Rance
Nov 10, 2008
Lynn Spencer
Love to you all,
Lynn & the girls from Oz.
Nov 25, 2008
Sari Lahtinen
Nov 26, 2008
Dee Rance
I just love your new pictures, she looks as if she is really enjoying life, and you as well, sending you an email..Dee and the girls
Nov 27, 2008
Marta Galuszka
Regards,
Marta
Dec 1, 2008
Ewa
Greetings from Ewa and Jonas
Dec 3, 2008
ela unluer
Dec 29, 2008
Rhona, Bruce n Lil Lucy Skene x
Dec 29, 2008
Dee Rance
Dee and the girls
Jan 2, 2009
Laura Kolbach
as for the snow: thanks god we get snow here in hungary every year. my younger girl was born in sweden, attached a photo of her at the age of 8 weeks :-) both of my girls love the snow, so i can imagine lucy's and layla's joy!
Feb 7, 2009
Laura Kolbach
Feb 7, 2009
Laura Kolbach
Feb 7, 2009
Dee Rance
Will speak soon Dee and the girls
Mar 8, 2009
Dee Rance
Mar 8, 2009
Dee Rance
Carol has written out the first paragraph of the leaflet on the blog 'Crufts 2009' it hasn't got it all in there but you will get the idea of what is being said, I will give you an email later but do let me and Carol on the blog know what you think of it.
Dee and the girls
Mar 9, 2009
Dee Rance
Thank you for putting your problem on the site, I am thinking of putting a Forum on the site to get people talking, I don't know about you but I feel strange about ''coming out'' it has actually taken a weight of my mind, and I think yours and my problems need bringing out into the open..I must speak to Meg, (Jas's sisters owner first) but I think that she will agree to putting it on here...it is begging to look like I am stalking you on your site....
Dee and the girls
Mar 11, 2009
Justine Foxon
Best wishes
Justine
Mar 13, 2009
Melinda Auld
Regards,
Melinda
Mar 14, 2009
Danica Morarova
Kisses to Layla and Lucy.
Nice music.:-)
Regards,
Danica
Mar 16, 2009
Dee Rance
Speak soon Dee and the girls
Mar 17, 2009
Ana Gaspar Kozelj
Mar 24, 2009
Phil Ledbetter
Mar 28, 2009
Dee Rance
Jas and I thank you for you wonderful congratulations on her birthday, it was nice talking to you the other day, though I wish I hadn't upset you so. You know that I am only at the end of the phone if you ever feel like talking again, and I do hope that we can meet soon, I will be going to Leeds so hope that you will be able to get there....All the best and thanks again Dee and the girls
Apr 7, 2009
Dee Rance
I haven't stopped crying today, people have been so kind with their comments, it will be so nice to meet you at Leeds, I think it may be a good idea to take a lot of tissues I have a feeling that we will start each other off, that said can't wait to meet you....Jas Saffy and Busby (Nicoles Gordon Boy) were in the woods yesterday and Jas was playing so well she was spinning and jumping and had a wonderful time, she only lost us once, which was wonderful, she is at the moment dreaming on the settee 'barking'........they cope better than us....
Thank you again Dee and the girls ps you have my number any time!!!!
Apr 7, 2009
Rosie Dudley
I wondered if I could speak to you about Layla. The AHT are starting to look at Late Onset PRA with the blood samples they have. Have you submitted blood from Layla ? If not please email me at rosie.dudley@btopenworld.com and I'll let you know what to do.
Many thanks
Rosie
Apr 9, 2009
Sandra Mather
Apr 18, 2009
Carol Gill
thanks for the comments on Liam, at his age i dont know what to do with the cataracts it is a lot of money to have them removed i have heard that some homeopathis remidies can help with the cataracts so i will be looking into that at the moment he is a happy contented dog and enjoys all the walks cuddles and friendship of all his doggy pals and i must admit my young Irish Ryan is very good with his grandad (((hugs))) Carol x
Apr 28, 2009
Jenny Ronnebro
Apr 28, 2009
Kirsty williamson
enjoy her she is a very precious little girl
Best wishes
Kirsty
Apr 28, 2009
Dee Rance
Apr 28, 2009
Dee Rance
Dee and the girls
Apr 29, 2009
Catherine Carter
so sorry that the diagnosis was confirmed! Give her a hug from us down here...I know she is very special and you love her a lot!
Kindest thoughts,
Catherine
Apr 29, 2009
Dee Rance
Apr 29, 2009
Astrid Landsaat
thank you for your reply. It is hard to live with Ginger's epilepsy, but at the moment she is doing very well. It is very sad news that Layla is blind. How does Layla cope with this?
Best wishes,
Astrid.
May 3, 2009
ereni
It is great that you have such a good family, second eyes and friend,Lucy and you don't suffer with other disease.
I wish you a lot of fun and sunny walking!
Reni
May 4, 2009
Špela L.Sušnik - Rubinus Verus
May 4, 2009
pat predeth
May 6, 2009
Mariana Åhnberg
May 7, 2009
pat predeth
May 7, 2009
Esther Siegrist
so many thanks for your Birthday greetings for Glenn. We enjoy this day, a warm sprin day, perfect to go swimming - only the boys :-)))
have a nice weekend, hugs to all
Esther
May 8, 2009
Annika Liikanen
May 17, 2009
Alan Pavlič
thanks
May 17, 2009
Firstroyal and Jarlaith
May 19, 2009
ursula wilby
Pretty dramatic birth but now its over and she is here...such a relief!
May 20, 2009
Linn Cecilie Moen
May 21, 2009
pat predeth
May 21, 2009
pat predeth
May 22, 2009