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Anti-chewing spray recipe

Started this discussion. Last reply by human friend Nov 17, 2016. 3 Replies

My dog is still chewing rocks and swallowing them and the only solution, in this area, is a water-resistant spray. Any ideas? I have read about bitter apple and tabasco, but I need to devise…Continue

Need Help NOW - cat litter eaten!

Started this discussion. Last reply by human friend Oct 6, 2016. 6 Replies

I know this is potentially really bad, one or two or three of my dogs has eaten 80% of a standard tray of CLUMPING CORN LITTER. What do I do? I know this can cause blockages .. . I'm thinking a…Continue

My Dog Just Pooed Out a Rock!

Started this discussion. Last reply by human friend Jul 7, 2016. 5 Replies

Poor thing, he looks confused but also a little proud now.This morning he was lethargic, not eating and occasionally vomiting but with no temperature or sign of pain.This afternoon he had some watery…Continue

How do I fix this nail?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Jennifer Sellek Nov 21, 2016. 4 Replies

Yesterday my red Irish, who is 4, got one of the claws on his front paw snagged in some hessian. I managed to free it eventually but the thread was jammed in because he has a split longitudinally…Continue

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"I have used green lipped mussel before ( chews)."
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Mar 10
human friend replied to Ellie's discussion Not wanting to be alone and learning to calmly play/walk with a stick in her mouth
"One of my dogs brings sticks and gumnuts and stuff into her bed either to build a nest, or else she pretends they are her babies. She is sterilized, now, but still does it to a lesser extent. So maybe she doesn't want to play with the stick, it…"
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"The Naughtiest Setter is 2 today! Happy Birthday you fool of a Took!"
Dec 5, 2016
Jennifer Sellek replied to human friend's discussion How do I fix this nail?
"I had this happen with my little girl Teagan. We take our pups for rides in our motorcycle sidecars often but one day she pooed in the sidecar and decided to get as far away from it as possible. My husband slowed as fast as he could when he realized…"
Nov 21, 2016
human friend replied to human friend's discussion Anti-chewing spray recipe
"Update: this seems to be having somewhat of a deterrant effect: there are less rocks and gumnuts being brought up to the house, so hopefully it will stop completely, if I persevere. On another anti-chewing problem, I have just discovered that a bit…"
Nov 17, 2016
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"2 silicone sealant tubes chewed up by the red and whites - must look like toy bones: rang vet, no toxic stuff. Lots of dog hair now stuck!"
Nov 16, 2016
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"ew, one of the dogs just vomitted up a whole, intact banana skin right outside the front door ..."
Nov 13, 2016
human friend commented on Anna Kazimierowicz's photo

Rozmaryn after running in the field

"Look at that tongue! It's like an alien escaping out of her head!! Great photo!"
Nov 10, 2016
human friend commented on Anna Kazimierowicz's blog post Ola and Rozmaryn are two yo now!!!
"Lol, I think they are concerned about their styling .."
Oct 22, 2016
human friend commented on James Doran's blog post Rory!
"Rory looks lovely and gentle, I hope you have years of fun together! Also, I like your lawn a lot."
Oct 22, 2016
human friend replied to human friend's discussion Anti-chewing spray recipe
"Thanks, yes I think a many-pronged attack is a good idea, and hopefully I can discover something like you describe, but I am dealing with the silliest dog in the world - I'm pretty sure of that! If only the lemon thing would work I would be set…"
Oct 17, 2016
Patricia replied to human friend's discussion Anti-chewing spray recipe
"Hi I'm not sure if this will help you but it works for me keeping Cooper off my flowers and away from stone area in my garden. Well firstly he hates the hose so I leave it (doesn't have to be on) over the area I want to keep him away from.…"
Oct 16, 2016
human friend commented on Stephen Sierakowski's photo

Cherryfield Viscount

"What interesting markings - kind of like a four leafed clover!"
Oct 16, 2016

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At 8:26am on March 24, 2016, human friend said…
this site is hardly active
At 7:23am on March 25, 2016, James Doran said…

Lets make things a little more active then, human friend. Why don't you tell us a little about yourself and your dogs, and maybe post a few photos!

At 7:09am on March 26, 2016, Catherine Carter said…

we could start a dialogue if you tell us about your dogs and yourself !

At 6:11am on August 31, 2016, Mike O'Dwyer said…

Hi Human Friend, sorry for the delay in replying –work and home schedules kinda crazy lately!!

Re. whether or not there is greater type-variation among IR&WS than in Irish Setters, whilst I am not an authority on either breed, I would say that you may be broadly correct.  In my own experience to date, many working IR&WS tend to be somewhat lighter, smaller and with less coat than many specimens from show kennels which may have been selectively bred for ‘improvement’ in these and other aspects over a number of generations.  Whilst there isn’t supposed to be any appreciable difference between ‘show’ and ‘working’ dogs (indeed many good specimens regularly fulfil BOTH roles), and judges are supposed to evaluate show exhibits primarily from a working perspective, nevertheless, from what I have so far seen, many judges either aren’t aware of this or choose to ignore it, as some of the regularly-winning dogs show some physical exaggerations in being over-sized in body, head, heaviness of bone, length of coat and tail carriage, etc.. 

It seems likely also, that the greater variation among IR&WS can at least in part be attributed to the out-crossing with Irish red Setters which has been essential up to the present time in order to broaden the IR&WS gene pool. The differences in head shape, length of coat and overall impression of Reds (eg., ‘Racey’, compared with ‘Athletic’ in IR&WS), logically has to influence ‘type’ in out-crossed IR&WS, potentially for a number of generations, obviously depending on how well breeders select sound ‘typical’ IR&WS stud dog specimens to breed back to in the post out-cross generations, and of course allowing for natural variations in type (as with any other breed), which  occur despite the best efforts of breeders, and also the phenomenon of ‘throw-back’ individuals appearing sporadically in a litter.  Additionally, whether the variation in shade/intensity of the red ‘islands’ in the coats of IR&WS (eg., ‘Chestnut’ red as opposed to darker red), is in any way attributable to the out-crossing, or whether it has always been a feature of the IR&WS breed, I have so far been unable to ascertain.  The offical  breed standard (ie., from the country of origin: Ireland), specifies the essential coat characteristic of white predominating, with ‘islands’ or patches of red, but some individuals have a marked excess of red in the coat – as a long-standing breeder friend put it to me, “…the coat should have islands of red, not continents of it…”.

But hey, whilst it is obviously important for breeders and fanciers to strive for maintenance of type and general soundness in the conservation and furtherance of any breed (temperament and health notwithstanding), an ‘imperfect’ specimen can turn out to be as good, and possibly better, canine companion as any ‘stunner’ (as with humans, I guess J), even if it might be omitted from a breeding programme.  This answer to your question should not be taken as definitive at all, but I hope it might be of some help. Mike.

At 5:50am on September 7, 2016, Mike O'Dwyer said…

Did my response help at all?  Mike

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