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had a wonderful Day Whoobie my Sh Ch Field Spaniel winning his Vet class and Dreamer my 20mth FS Bitch winning her second PG class to date then going on to be awarded the RCC..it was also very nice to catch up with T Walsh and Dorothy Park, Brendan and Olive all from Ireland, Trudy had some foregin visitors who now think im totally mad!!!!! well done to all the setter winners in all four breeds of setters but i just had to put my little bit of news in from the wee brown things (grin)
also the forms that have been produced about the latest scare in IS was on hand with excellent information printed on it well done the ISA Of England on being so quick to get the news upfront..lets hope that not to many of our lovely breed suffers with this new finding
best wish's to you all and congrats on your wins
love Carol G

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Comment by Dee Rance on March 8, 2009 at 5:56am
Hi there Carol, Congratulations on your wins, and for the compliments for the forms.
We didn't manage a first in Veteran but we did get 2nd in Veteran Bitch..very pleased with that.
Comment by Frances McKimm on March 8, 2009 at 10:22am
Well done Carol with the little brown thing!!
Oh dear and Brendan & Olive & Dorothy and all there, I did miss the fun with you lot didn't I
Still I've proud of my 18 all doing well and growing just like a normal litter.
Comment by Susan Stone on March 8, 2009 at 10:57am
Congratulations Carol, after all, the little brown thing has certain similarities with a setter....
Comment by Frances McKimm on March 8, 2009 at 11:58am
By the way Carol what is this about a 'latest scare in the Irish Setters'??? and the forms with information printed it on it?
Can you please lighten us as to this new problem in the breed, whatever it is?
Comment by Carol Gill on March 8, 2009 at 1:41pm
Hi Francis
there seems to be a problem arose in our Irish setters, the form says A Possible New Condition In Irish setters
it reads it has been brought to the attention of the ISAE Committee by the breeders that an eye condition recently found by Professeor Bedford in three IS has provisionallybeen adentified as Stationary Night Blindness (SNB) it affects the rod photoreceptors in the retina, impairing night vision. (N.B. It is NOT PRA!) A simular condition occurs in Briards, where the mode of inheritance is recessive, with the pattern we are famiilair with from PRA rcd1 and CLAD. However, the mode of inheritance in IS has not been established: DNA tests of two of the affected animals have shown that it does not involve the same defective gene as in Briards.
Two bitch's are from the same litter, the third animal. a dog, is related but not closely. None have been bred from
The discovery of this condition resulted from an owner mentioning apparent night vision problems dureing a routine eye test by Prof Bedford. The bitch and her litter sister were subsequently tested at the Royal Vet Collage and both found to have apparent SNB. Much Later in conversation it was relaised that the dog also had problems after dark, the aim of this leaflet is to make IS owners aware of the potentiol problem and to take more notice of their dogs general behavior after dark
i have reproduced here the first paragraph of the document, i hope i have not tread on any ones toes in doing this as it was been distrubuted at Crufts
love Carol G
Comment by Kristina Brannlund Westin on March 8, 2009 at 2:23pm
Thank´s Carol!
This is important for the health of our breed and lets hope we all do our best to combat this disease.

Thank´s for sharing//Kristina
Comment by Kirsty williamson on March 9, 2009 at 4:37am
Congrats on your good day thank you for sharing the information, I was at Cruftsbut not showing and knew nothing about it, the message here is to eyetest your breeding stock.
Comment by Dee Rance on March 9, 2009 at 4:12pm
Unfortunately an ordinary eye test wont work with this it need an ERG. but yes do get them tested. But it is still a good idea to get them tested for LOPRA (Late Onset PRA) this should be done regularly. Try and get hold of the leaflet. Perhaps Carol could put the rest of it on the site,
Comment by Carol Gill on March 9, 2009 at 4:37pm
I WILL IF YOU WANT JUST ASK
Comment by Kirsty williamson on March 9, 2009 at 5:31pm
Yes please Carol. I thought there may have been some information on one of the breed club websites but not as of yet.

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