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We all have our favourite Irish Setters from the past and so I thought it would be interesting to know... which dogs & bitches from the past would be on your top ten list of favourites?
You might like to include dogs who you think should have made it to Sh.Ch. but missed out by a whisker.
This could prove to be a bit of a mind bender, as there have been so many great dogs.
My 'top ten' favourites are:
Marksway Marquis Kerryfair Night Fever
Clonageera Genisis Ma Biche of Danaway
Twoacres Gold Eagle Caspians Intrepid
Fearnley Fireheather of Kirkavagh Caspians Night Music
Scarletti Cockney Rebel Wendover Lorna 2cc's
This discussion is for everyone even if you don't show your own dogs.
Choose your favourites from photo's on here, books and websites like Bardonhill.com
Most people have a 'type' of Irish Setter they prefer to another.
There are no rules in this discussion apart from they must be dog's from the past.
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Eva
I knew this subject would lead to digressions. Now that you mention the Balintyne's it brings Gold Dust of Balintyne to mind. She possessed the most wonderful front make up with the cleanest neck and shoulders that i had only seen once before and that was in the very old and stately Wendover Gentleman.
The first mature setter I met was Sh Ch Clonageera Tyrone. It was in the 80's and we'd had our first Clonageera puppy (Mystique) for a week. We'd gone to visit Pat and Jim Rutherford and Ty came over, jumped up, put his paws on my shoulder and licked my nose. I looked into his eyes and fell in love with Irish Setters and his is still the type which makes my heart skip. Most of my show experience was with the Clonageeras, so Genesis, Megan and Stella would have to be on my list. Also at that time I often saw K. Night Fever, who was without doubt, very special. I loved Stella's sire, Andana Jake. I saw him try and run out of the ring in his veteran class at Crufts to chase after a gorgeous bitch who was passing by and thought - 'That's a true Irish'. Personality brings a setter far closer to my internal breed standard than the angle of their shoulders.
The most important dog amongst the ones I've known and probably top of my list was Sh Ch Starchelle Chicago Bear. He was the first I'd touched with that beautiful silky coat that is now almost the norm amongst the winning setters today, and I think he brought the glamour into the breed in the UK. His wonderful children by Stella are almost a group entry of their own, and I was lucky to own the most beautiful of all of them, in my opinion, C. Fidelity, but he scorned dog-shows and just mucked about so that we could quickly go and have more fun elsewhere.
Now I've just returned to seeing Irish Setters in the show ring after a break of 15 years, so have a lot to learn about today's dogs. I've been fortunate to have had beautiful, graceful dogs at home but haven't shown them so they're simply my personal best of breeds.
From the past...as in, now deceased?
Phew. That's a tough one. I'll have to think about it - though I'm already going to agree with everyone who has listed UKShCh Kerryfair Night Fever. He is responsible for two of my lovely dogs, so it'd be pretty lapse of me to omit him. Also have to agree with Aleks and Wim re UKShCh Thendara Kennedy...and if we're allowed to add dogs from the recent past, then also UKShCh Thendara Don Corleone, since he is also directly responsible for my lovely Aneira.
I will have a think about who else to add...
Loved your girls too and many hearts, like yours, were stolen by Raffles. His brother Wendover Robin owned by Ailsa Harvey was a lovely winning youngster who's life was tragically cut short in a car accident. I am sure he would have made his mark. I also agree with you on Kiwi and of course your own Copper's My Wild Irish Rose who is still one of the top winning bitches.
I was only ever in the US once and some time ago. At that time a lovely dog called Ch Shawnee Pipedream O'Charlton blew me away. He was a Candia Indeed son. In bitches loved Ch Meadowlark's Glorianna, ultra feminine with the prettiest of heads. Who remembers these dogs. How do they compare to the present day Irish? Perhaps someone who does can contribute to this discussion.
@ Eva, also loved Ballintyne Call Me Madam- Hannah was given her to handle in the International Handling final at Crufts-moved like a dream and Hannah felt very privileged to have handled her!
Loved Caspians Night Music too- not many bitches been mentioned so far.
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