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Started by Martin Rowles Sep 15, 2013.
Started by Jean K Feb 18, 2012.
Started by Jean K. Last reply by Alan RYAN Feb 16, 2012.
Margaret Sierkowski of Dalriach has just had a litter born, I assume with some girls still avaliable as they were only born a few hours ago.
As far as I know English setters are not being considered for the role of outcrossing with IRWS, only selected Irish Setters are to be considered, that is, if the go ahead is given.
The question of 'English Setter in IRWS breeding' is an old red herring - given as a reason for ticking in IRWS coats. This ignores any investigation into coat colour inheritance - ticking is a separate gene and may be present in in solid coloured dogs - just not seen. Centuries ago, dogs were bred for performance not for breed identity as such.... so who knows what breeds were added?
The current 'fear' comes from the statement that the four Setter breeds are equally close genetically - this has been verified on different occasions in studies by independent geneticists.
There is no genetic reason why English and Gordon Setters could not be used along with Irish Setters in an outcross if the fear of health problems is the motive. The objection is that the IRWS would be altered from the current breed standard - a black and tan IRWS?, a Belton IRWS?, a solid red IRWS? The dogs could probably be very healthy or possibly very unhealthy with diseases added from the other breeds, but with COIs of 0% and the possibility, over many generations, of 'breeding back' to the original IRWS colour.
We have a dog puppy unexpectedly available at 8 weeks. For more details on the litter please see www.lovenjoelsetters.co.uk They are Autumnwood Gold Standard ex. Royston Duchess at lovenjoel. All health tests have been carried out and are clear, hips 4:4 & 5:2. COI = 9.6
We have available puppies from two couples:
- J.PL.Ch. Dreams Come True Shadow Dog & Int.Sh.Ch. Exclusive's Gypsyboy
- PL.Ch Jarda Rysi Wykrot & Multi.Ch, Int.Ch, Int.Sh.Ch. Leo Bojandoli
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