Looking for (working setter) pedigrees...

[Astrid Landsaat]

and there are a few that I can't find. I need them for a 10 generations COI and I hope someone can help me with the missing pedigrees. The missing pedigrees are from these dogs:

 

• MOUNT NINA (IKC G0232)
• RED STAR AMBER SCARLET
• WAYDOWN COREALY
• SUSSI (DK301708)  Dam of Amulett
• COOLAGARRANROE LADY
• RAMP (N03001/60) Sire of Toya
• TINNSJÖENS TILLY (N06975/63) Dam of Toya
• GRÖNSJÖENS TITA

It would be great to solve the puzzle and having a complete database!

 

Kindest regards, Astrid.

[Margaret Sierakowski]

Astrid, Sorry to have been slow replying to your E mail fromk a few days ago, I was busy with other things the last few days.

I havent had much luck finding any of these dogs

Waydown Coreally might be from the same litter as Waydown Sandy (but there are doubts about the recorded  pedigree of Waydown Sandy)

Tinnsjoens Tilly is in the Norwegian data base which you have probably tried already (access from NISK)

[Carmel Murphy]

Sorry I dont know any of these dog either! Have you asked Henk ten Klooster as he seems to have a lot of info on working lines! He is a member here too;o)

[Christiane Lohmann]

Hello Astrid ! What a colourful collection of old names and countries !

Kennel Irmüns in Norway was more famous for its Kleiner Münsterländer, but they gave huge influence to the breed by their bitches who are behind Kennel Steinsfossens. At those days the norwegian IS was rather big and heavy.

RAMP N60/3001 - sire TOMMY AV JEGERAAS 54/1258 (Roy 611M - Patzy av Jegeraas 3438 O)

dam RITTA 57/2508

TINNSJOENS TILLY N63/6975 - sire ROY 59/5858 dam Bianca 58/3021 (Ch. Groensjoens Rock - Bianca 2907 O)

 

Sure you are looking for Groensjoens TITA and not TYA ? Any further names around her or studbook numbers ?

 

Kennel Red Star was at home in Hamburg/Germany in my neighbourhood and their dogs were not used for hunting, although some ancestors from Kennel Horner Bruch had versatile talent.

RED STAR AMBER SCARLET DPSZ136/72

sire LAPIS VOM HORNER BRUCH (Ch. Shandon O'Cuchulain - Polyandries's Red Star)

dam NETTA VOM HORNER BRUCH (Dagobert vom Horner Bruch - Isabell vom Horner Bruch)

 

Amulett is from Denmark and I would love to get her full pedigree as well...been chasing and fishing for it for 25 years;-))) She is behind our dogs as grandma of LUFFE. 

 

Mount Nina rings a bell, but no idea where to start looking for her. Was she behind a norwegian import early nineties ?

 

best regards

Christiane

[Astrid Landsaat]

Wow Christiane, thank you so much! I almost gave up on this puzzle! I am not sure if it Gronsjoens Tita. There where more names that weren't spelled correct.

 

I'd send my list to the Norwegian and Danish clubs, but no reply so far. ;-(

Mount Nina is mentioned in O'Dwyer's book but not her parents.

 

@ Carmel; Henk was the first one who I asked for help. The original list was much longer and with his help and the help from some others it was reduced to 8.

 

@ Margaret; Tinnsjoens Tilly is on the Norwegian site but only half the pedigree.

 

Thank you all for your help. I really appreciate this!

[Christiane Lohmann]

You're welcome;-))))

 

So where did you find the name of Groensjoens Tita then ?

 

regards C.

[Astrid Landsaat]

Hi Christiane,

 

that name was on the Swedish site!

 

Regards, Astrid.